FA Bids Trade Asset Proposal (211 views)

[eric]

How it Works

Timberwolves have no soft cap space.
Bulls have $13m in cap space.
Timberwolves trade two firsts (or whatever) to Bulls for the use of their bids.
Timberwolves send two sets of bids to the commissioner, one for Timberwolves and one for Bulls.
If Bulls sign anyone in the software, those players are moved to Timberwolves.
If not, Bulls keep whatever they were traded.

What's the Point?

In addition to not having to worry about matching contracts, the Timberwolves in this scenario would be able to simultaneously bid on max players and MLE/min players. Or the Bulls could trade for the Timberwolves' bids and do the same, or a team that already had max room could trade for the Bulls' bids and have two chances at max players instead of just one.

[Deleted]

i don't mind this. it's something i tried to do each offseason as a gm.

[Druce]

this is a bit like the trade exceptions i proposed a while back

[IanBoyd]

not a big fan

[Druce]

could even implement that actually, the pick trading team gets either any fa signed with that space, or that space as a trade exception to use in the future

[pedro el guapo]

May 9, 2018 14:51:53 GMT Druce said:

could even implement that actually, the pick trading team gets either any fa signed with that space, or that space as a trade exception to use in the future

I kinda like that, except I think we would want to limit the length of an exception to maybe 1 or 2 seasons.

[eric]

May 9, 2018 14:50:57 GMT Druce said:

this is a bit like the trade exceptions i proposed a while back

yes, now that you mention it, functionally it's the same thing. i think this approach to it will be easier to keep track of and do in the software though.

[yawn]

I think we should make the sim league as complicated as possible.

[jhb]

I voted no because I'm feeling obstinate today.

[fason]

I’ll vote yes on anything that could increase trades.

[Majic]

key part will be tracking this and keeping it updated.

if odin doesnt think this would cause a ton of problems then think it could be a benefit

[Druce]

May 9, 2018 15:42:02 GMT Majic said:

key part will be tracking this and keeping it updated.

if odin doesnt think this would cause a ton of problems then think it could be a benefit

counter point, another rule for you to not know

[skrouse]

Big no for me, this bypasses the salary cap rules in place intended for fairness and parity. Not a fan at all

[TimPig]

May 9, 2018 16:17:23 GMT skrouse said:

Big no for me, this bypasses the salary cap rules in place intended for fairness and parity. Not a fan at all

Yeah so basically this allows other teams to use my soft cap space?

E.g. JHB could've just sent bids on my behalf and not had to get rid of Scoonie/Spooky to open cap space?

[jhb]

Not a fan, seriously. A really good capped team could operate as if they had 80 million in soft cap.

[skrouse]

Yeah, esentially makes cap space a tradable commodity without moving players. And I'm not a fan

[Druce]

May 9, 2018 16:22:35 GMT jhb said:

Not a fan, seriously. A really good capped team could operate as if they had 80 million in soft cap.

edit: nevermind, read your post wrong

[Deleted]

this obvious money grab for the rich is something i would've expect from pete

eric

[IanBoyd]

May 9, 2018 16:19:29 GMT TimPig said:

May 9, 2018 16:17:23 GMT skrouse said:

Big no for me, this bypasses the salary cap rules in place intended for fairness and parity. Not a fan at all

Yeah so basically this allows other teams to use my soft cap space?

E.g. JHB could've just sent bids on my behalf and not had to get rid of Scoonie/Spooky to open cap space?

yes

[wee2dee]

rich get potentially richer.

voted hell yes.

[eric]

May 9, 2018 15:42:02 GMT Majic said:

key part will be tracking this and keeping it updated.

if odin doesnt think this would cause a ton of problems then think it could be a benefit

why i think this will be easier to track than trade exceptions is it's all or nothing. if team a makes a trade like this, they send in bids for team a and team b. simple. it would be very easy to add to the Owed Picks thread, would look something like:

Bulls 1st to Warriors
Bulls FA bids to Timberwolves
Cavaliers 2nd to Knicks

(obviously i would never take on a cap killing second round pick, but you get the idea)

May 9, 2018 16:22:35 GMT jhb said:

Not a fan, seriously. A really good capped team could operate as if they had 80 million in soft cap.

yes but only if they can convince another team or teams to trade it to them, they would still have to abide by the hard cap, and it's a gamble anyway because they could just as easily strike out in FA and have sent out X resources for nothing.

[wee2dee]

bump.

[skrouse]

I'm still firmly against this fwiw

[wee2dee]

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[Mike]

May 9, 2018 16:17:23 GMT skrouse said:

Big no for me, this bypasses the salary cap rules in place intended for fairness and parity. Not a fan at all

What the man said, I fear this would break the balance of the league and fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

[skrouse]

Haha, I'm fairly progressive tho so i am open to discussions or possible limitations to a rule like this. But I am against the current proposal as it has been laid out