2001 Rookie Ladder (315 views)

[eric]

Welcome back! We're gonna set some ground rules real quick, Donovan Mitchell. For the purposes of this ladder a rookie is anyone who has not been on a sim league roster before this year as denoted by their player page. A player like Aljami Durham who has "1" year of experience is eligible because he was in the G League in 2000, but a player like Freddie McSwain Jr is not: even though he played 0 minutes in 2000, he was on a sim league roster. Got it? Good.

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1. Guy Beahm PF



It's Guy, love, don't compromise. Elite scoring percentages, solid rebounding, great handling, and he's even blocking some shots for you. If the Rockets keep adding young talent like this to their existing star core they're sure to repeat as champions ohhhhhhh right.



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2. Mark Alarie PF



Elite jump shot, and all his other stats are in the same place as the Beahmer's. The C defense grade is a little bit of a concern in this bold new era of "things besides shot blocking matter a little", but that's it.

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3. Timo Cruz SG



Fabulous scorer, turns it over a little but not a deal breaker when he's giving you those 2.2 assists per game. The deal breaker is that he's giving you a comically low 2.1 rebounds per game. Maybe if he wasn't running around in wicker loafers, huh?

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4. Arvydas Sabonis C



The complete lack of defensive stats still makes me uneasy, and his scoring %s aren't quite up there. But the man is enormous at a legit 7'3" and he's dominating the glass. He could have the exact same build he had in 4.0 but this time he's actually got a future.

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5. Jeff Hornacek* SG



Hornacek isn't giving you the scoring prowess of Cruz, but he at least could become PG eligible, which makes his putrid rebounding give off less of a stink. A solid ast:tov suggests Passing upgrades won't go amiss, either.

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6. Chris Washburn C



The Tank God gets the Alredick Hughes Memorial Tiny Sample Size spot. Best efficiency in class and these days it isn't totally fatuous to expect a 53 FG% for a big to stay up, best rebounding in class, solid defensive numbers, an all-Jump Shot C Outside special, and isn't turning it over 6 times a game anymore. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on.

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7. Mark Price PG



Another iffy efficiency guy and another horrible rebounding guy, but Price's handles are truly sublime. The class is a little thin right now so that's all it takes.

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8. Ron Harper SF



Good efficiency, ugly everywhere else. Not exactly what you're hoping for in the lotto but at least he has one sim league ready skill.

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9. Markis McDuffie SF



Mar-McD was a super elite scorer in 4.0 so it's quite odd to see him putting up under 4 points per 36. I don't think we ever had a perimeter player shoot so little in 4.0, and while his defensive stats are meh he is listed at B- and is doing very well on the boards. If 5.0 teams start building around d/r wings, he could be very interesting, because as always, you can't teach a guy to not shoot.

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10. Malik Newman SG



Your generic glue guy. Doesn't do anything great besides steals, doesn't do anything bad. Excellent jump shot but doesn't use it. Has a high ceiling especially around famous leadership presence Steph Templeton. Reminds me a lot of a young 4.0 Broderick Langhi, and he literally had to play 4 on 5 his first few years in the league.

[pedro el guapo]

Not cool bro. 1.

[TimPig]

Lol. Left Brad Daugherty off.

[Deleted]

Timo cruz is not a rookie lmao

[eric]

forgot to put stats, here they are:

pts/tsa blk/36 ast:tov reb/36 pts/36 JSH 3SH xp/t mp Player
1.175 1.48 1.17 10.36 19.56 85.72 27.28 1.175 942 Guy Beahm PF
1.114 1.59 1.40 10.94 18.08 98.91 14.09 1.108 931 Mark Alarie PF
1.178 0.47 2.00 3.27 23.22 80.32 80.68 1.146 1040 Timo Cruz SG
1.025 0.34 1.25 11.89 18.34 68.81 22.19 1.031 1177 Arvydas Sabonis C
1.044 0.51 2.60 4.34 22.72 86.74 49.26 1.070 606 Jeff Hornacek* SG
1.185 0.95 1.50 12.32 18.00 86.58 4.42 1.185 160 Chris Washburn C
1.077 0.26 4.20 4.11 19.80 80.11 65.89 1.039 560 Mark Price PG
1.117 0.26 1.25 4.47 13.14 76.13 14.87 1.135 562 Ron Harper SF
1.145 0.28 1.20 6.98 3.63 78.89 57.11 1.167 529 Markis McDuffie SF
1.038 0.23 1.67 6.35 15.35 94.96 51.04 1.051 1310 Malik Newman SG
1.016 0.11 2.75 5.17 16.71 65.94 #N/A #N/A 1470 Aljami Durham PG
0.979 0.51 0.00 6.59 5.58 110.63 -74.63 0.979 64 Augusto Binelli C
1.020 0.13 0.62 10.75 24.18 57.94 11.06 1.020 1179 Brad Daugherty C
1.000 0.00 2.00 7.85 18.00 83.77 7.23 1.000 484 Brad Sellers C
1.342 0.55 #DIV/0! 7.75 24.37 70.95 42.05 1.219 52 Buck Johnson SF
1.046 0.33 1.10 7.86 9.19 64.85 26.15 1.040 1170 Cedric Henderson* PF
1.095 0.43 2.50 8.46 9.11 102.70 23.30 1.093 697 Chink Crossin SG
1.083 0.81 1.36 7.90 17.88 89.75 56.25 1.049 1178 Chuck Person SF
1.222 0.22 2.00 8.89 6.67 87.96 73.04 1.164 697 Dean Cain PF
0.300 0.00 1.00 1.48 3.45 #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0! 22 Dell Curry SG
0.965 0.36 0.50 8.97 8.12 41.75 14.25 0.965 802 Dennis Rodman PF
1.033 0.24 1.45 3.61 6.26 84.89 76.11 1.038 1316 Drazen Petrovic SG
1.002 1.36 2.36 2.87 10.89 73.60 39.40 0.990 857 Dwayne Washington PG
0.880 0.00 0.17 8.53 18.00 -48.10 139.10 0.718 61 Georga Glamack PF
1.008 0.38 1.45 9.63 9.63 57.72 11.28 1.014 835 Johnathan Williams PF
0.989 0.55 2.17 3.82 15.82 102.28 10.72 0.985 244 Johnny Dawkins PG
0.955 0.20 2.10 6.55 13.41 65.61 47.39 0.970 1285 Kenny Walker SF
1.309 6.55 #DIV/0! 9.82 18.33 110.63 -19.63 1.309 22 Kevin Duckworth C
1.037 0.81 2.50 6.31 14.64 73.94 52.06 1.042 1451 Len Bias SF
0.880 2.69 1.00 8.90 7.66 36.56 -0.56 0.880 626 Marques Bolden C
1.063 0.55 3.88 3.82 7.91 66.34 46.66 1.063 541 Michael Jackson PG
0.869 0.17 1.69 9.34 11.38 74.17 16.83 0.869 954 Nassir Little SF
1.029 0.25 1.44 7.63 9.75 90.79 35.21 1.054 1238 Panagiotis Fasoulas C
0.908 0.23 1.92 8.65 13.79 69.60 21.40 0.949 1386 Precious Achiuwa SF
0.952 0.36 1.00 7.39 9.54 71.56 41.44 1.020 1117 Reuben Lautenschlager SF
0.937 0.49 1.00 2.43 9.24 90.79 35.21 0.996 118 Robert Rose SG
0.957 0.47 0.96 8.18 18.00 58.98 32.02 0.949 1263 Roy Tarpley C
0.955 0.00 1.92 8.19 12.17 72.23 63.77 0.990 595 Stojko Vrankovic C
1.020 0.36 1.13 5.35 12.71 72.97 63.03 1.018 1333 Walter Hardaway SF
1.122 1.83 4.00 7.93 5.49 51.11 4.89 1.122 106 William Bedford C

[eric]

Apr 16, 2018 18:36:00 GMT @billykinggm said:

Timo cruz is not a rookie lmao

he fits the definition as stated in the OP

[Deleted]

Apr 16, 2018 19:32:28 GMT eric said:

Apr 16, 2018 18:36:00 GMT @billykinggm said:

Timo cruz is not a rookie lmao

he fits the definition as stated in the OP

He played hundreds of minutes for me last season.

[eric]

Apr 16, 2018 17:59:49 GMT TimPig said:

Lol. Left Brad Daugherty off.

i guess i should specify, the point of the ladder is to rank rookies who are good at basketball, not the best tanking players

[eric]

Apr 16, 2018 19:33:11 GMT @billykinggm said:

Apr 16, 2018 19:32:28 GMT eric said:

he fits the definition as stated in the OP

He played hundreds of minutes for me last season.

"For the purposes of this ladder a rookie is anyone who has not been on a sim league roster before this year as denoted by their player page."

look at timo cruz' player page

[IanBoyd]

Apr 16, 2018 19:33:22 GMT eric said:

Apr 16, 2018 17:59:49 GMT TimPig said:

Lol. Left Brad Daugherty off.

i guess i should specify, the point of the ladder is to rank rookies who are good at basketball, not the best tanking players

[TimPig]

Apr 16, 2018 19:33:22 GMT eric said:

Apr 16, 2018 17:59:49 GMT TimPig said:

Lol. Left Brad Daugherty off.

i guess i should specify, the point of the ladder is to rank rookies who are good at basketball, not the best tanking players

Highest pts/36 among rookies.

H.T.H.

[eric]

Apr 16, 2018 19:37:39 GMT TimPig said:

Apr 16, 2018 19:33:22 GMT eric said:

i guess i should specify, the point of the ladder is to rank rookies who are good at basketball, not the best tanking players

Highest pts/36 among rookies.

H.T.H.

you must be a Kobe fan

[eric]

day 30 apparently i pulled my stats before the re sim was posted, fyi

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1. Mark Alarie PF - LR #2



One Guy's loss is a smart Mark's gain. Alarie drops slightly in rebounding but more than makes up for it with efficiency and shot blocks.

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2. Len Bias SF - LR unranked



I guess Jesus wasn't the only one to rise from the dead this past Easter! Even accounting for the unsustainable 3P% Bias is giving you great efficiency, throw in rookie boards and bleals like these I'd say LEN('his career') > 10 = TRUE


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3. Chink Crossin SG - LR unranked



So the rest of the class hit the wall hard. Crossin's low volume makes any read on his efficiency premature, but at least it's positive for now, and his d/r and handling are extremely solid. I try not to go too far into intangibles on the Ladder but playing next to known HoFer Steph Templeton is going to do wonders for Crossin's two way game, and you can take that to the bank.

TO THE BLOOD BANK

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4. Ron Harper SF - LR #8



"The Big Marx Brother" isn't far behind #3. He even improved on his awful preseason rebounding... slightly. A few hours in the Lab and he should at least be an elite sixth man type.

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5. Guy Beahm SF - LR #1



Yikes, Scotty. Beahm this guy up some not being bad.

Rebounding and shot blocking dipping are to be expected after Pete ruined him for life by moving him to SF, but what happened to the efficiency? Yikes, Scotty. Keeping him up for now on the strength of his preseason, but while my patience like my 5.0 title count is nonzero, it is also finite.

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6. Kevin Duckworth C - LR unranked



Quack quack quack, Mr. Duckworth! I considered putting K-Duc of Death on in preseason but 22 minutes was too much even for me. Now everybody stinks so even in comically low minutes he's in, baby! Really nice jumper, efficiency, and size. Listed at D shown potential and C+ Defense which does not fill one with confidence, but at 2 blocks per 36 there might be a 4.0 Kobe Maggette type in there.

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7. Chuck Person SF - LR unranked



Chuck chuck chuck, Mr. Person! Chuck's too big to play SG which is a shame since his rebounds are booty. Is getting plenty of touches and average efficiency as Chief Bossertette of Gary Bossert and the Bossertettes fame, remains to be seen what he would get up on a functional team.

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8. Timo Cruz SG - LR #3



I don't think I've ever seen a player get less than 3 rebounds per 36. Even though Timo Cruz has been recognized as a rookie by the Supreme Court of the United States of America parody country western judicial-pop band I've been known to dabble in while on hiatus from The Straight Shot, you gotta see more than that for such a one dimensional player to rise up the ladder.

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9. William Bedford C - LR unranked



We'll close with two super limited minutes guys who at least are good in them. Bill-Be has put up sublime scoring across preseason and 30 days, and he's not turning the ball over. His aggregate rebounding is "eh" but he is giving you a shot block or two.

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10. Chris Washburn C - LR #6



The Big Manual Laundry Device continues to put up solid scoring numbers with no free throw shot to speak of, and his rebounds remain best in class. How soon can Tobi Oyedeji be amnestied again?

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stats

pts/tsa blk/36 ast:tov reb/36 pts/36 JSH 3SH xp/t mp Player
1.125 1.98 0.71 10.15 17.01 101.69 11.31 1.138 491 Mark Alarie PF
1.178 0.83 1.42 8.15 20.63 86.07 39.93 1.104 698 Len Bias SF
1.167 0.00 3.67 6.10 10.86 77.79 48.21 1.097 473 Chink Crossin SG
1.143 0.14 2.00 5.64 15.04 74.00 17.00 1.136 423 Ron Harper SF
1.020 1.36 1.30 8.18 19.42 80.77 32.23 1.030 666 Guy Beahm SF
1.108 2.08 0.40 11.08 10.15 78.89 12.11 1.108 312 Kevin Duckworth C
1.016 0.82 1.07 5.86 22.05 99.69 46.31 1.058 675 Chuck Person SF
1.086 0.46 2.00 2.55 21.83 84.18 76.82 1.048 775 Timo Cruz SG
1.071 1.48 0.33 10.76 6.31 110.63 -54.63 1.071 68 William Bedford C
1.064 0.43 0.00 12.14 13.01 47.14 43.86 1.064 66 Chris Washburn C
1.031 0.00 2.88 5.60 16.47 79.91 56.09 1.042 488 Aljami Durham PG
1.002 0.44 0.75 10.98 18.11 78.89 12.11 1.005 787 Arvydas Sabonis C
0.948 0.00 1.00 18.00 7.20 110.63 -74.63 0.948 10 Augusto Binelli C
1.050 0.14 0.82 11.15 21.32 61.57 7.43 1.050 536 Brad Daugherty C
0.980 0.13 0.74 7.52 15.82 85.83 27.17 0.986 410 Buck Johnson SF
1.044 0.11 1.33 7.07 8.02 78.89 12.11 1.080 341 Cedric Henderson* PF
0.957 0.28 1.50 4.25 4.54 52.16 60.84 1.019 559 David Wingate SG
1.156 0.00 1.00 9.00 8.36 #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0! 90 Dean Cain PF
1.018 0.86 0.67 10.29 7.71 54.86 1.14 1.018 706 Dennis Rodman PF
0.944 0.27 1.60 5.06 5.20 57.72 103.28 0.961 316 Drazen Petrovic SG
0.966 1.08 2.70 3.52 14.62 78.89 34.11 0.966 319 Dwayne Washington PG
1.010 0.37 2.50 3.92 22.20 87.49 48.51 1.037 386 Jeff Hornacek* SG
0.985 0.00 0.85 6.40 23.02 3.38 2.62 0.985 416 John Salley PF
0.951 0.14 0.80 4.34 11.77 90.79 90.21 1.021 334 Kassius Robertson SG
0.893 0.77 1.17 10.20 17.33 72.15 18.85 0.893 374 Kenny Gattison PF
0.900 0.32 2.13 8.12 12.61 58.42 54.58 0.941 674 Kenny Walker SF
0.945 0.41 2.83 6.71 11.80 57.72 68.28 0.946 425 Lagerald Vick SG
1.060 0.21 4.17 2.96 22.02 82.86 63.14 1.031 340 Mark Price PG
1.145 0.12 1.45 5.86 6.33 89.47 46.53 1.025 614 Markis McDuffie SF
0.827 1.14 0.50 10.42 7.58 24.05 11.95 0.827 209 Marques Bolden C
1.013 0.46 3.41 4.56 13.44 77.96 35.04 1.012 632 Michael Jackson PG
0.935 0.74 1.64 9.93 8.74 93.93 32.07 0.963 437 Panagiotis Fasoulas C
0.907 0.61 0.72 7.20 15.99 60.80 30.20 0.899 649 Roy Tarpley C
0.743 0.88 0.43 5.93 5.93 70.95 65.05 0.846 115 Walter Hardaway SF

[Taco: Better than a Nacho]

No Mark Price? Okay.

Mark Price PG 16 19.3 11.4 1.4 2.9 1.6 0.1 0.6 .493 .821 .474

pts/tsa - 3rd
ast:tov - 1st
pts/36 - 4th

[pedro el guapo]

I'm as confused as you are re: Mr. Beahm

[Deleted]

these aren't even correct

[eric]

Apr 19, 2018 22:04:47 GMT Taco: Better than a Nacho said:

No Mark Price? Okay.

Mark Price PG 16 19.3 11.4 1.4 2.9 1.6 0.1 0.6 .493 .821 .474

pts/tsa - 3rd
ast:tov - 1st
pts/36 - 4th

he was a lot worse before the resim

[eric]

Apr 19, 2018 22:17:34 GMT @billykinggm said:

these aren't even correct

day 30 apparently i pulled my stats before the re sim was posted, fyi

[Deleted]

Apr 19, 2018 22:54:00 GMT eric said:

Apr 19, 2018 22:17:34 GMT @billykinggm said:

these aren't even correct

day 30 apparently i pulled my stats before the re sim was posted, fyi

Horrible

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SHADY’S BACK

[eric]

day 60

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1. Mark Alarie PF - LR #1



Easy choice, solid across the board, no weaknesses. We might as well tag and bag the rest of this class, ROY is locked up.

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2. Len Bias SF - LR #2



Same, but obviously worse off since he's not a big. #5.0

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3. Ron Harper SF - LR #4



Harper keeps scoring with great efficiency, and it keeps covering up his other weaknesses. Offers an interesting choice for the Lab: pump his scoring to ludicrous levels and hope TC shores up the rest, or decide his scoring is good enough and fill out the rest of his game? What those young bloods in Milwaukee need to remember is that this game has always been, and will always be, about buckets.

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4. Chuck Person SF - LR #7



Has some weaknesses that aren't as likely to be solved in TC, such as Handling, but Person is solid too.

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5. Mark Price PG - LR unranked



The Price is right, Taco! Outside grade suggests his efficiency is only average and the rebounding is woeful, but sublime defense and handles are enough to get him to the home court advantage rungs.

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6. Brad Daugherty C - LR unranked



Daugherty skyrockets on the back of his suddenly great scoring efficiency, but his preseason struggles were too pronounced to dismiss just yet, and the handling and defense remain major red flags.

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7. Kassius Robertson SG - LR unranked



The Little Clay Muhammad is Yet Another Perimeter Scorer Who Can't Rebound, and even with A Outside the numbers will probably come down a little, so for now he's in the down belows. A poor man's Ron Harper, in a phrase.

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8. Jeff Hornacek* SG - LR unranked



The Big Triceratops isn't terrible or great at anything. Getting to PG eligibility would help, but with expectable growth should be a decent bench SG regardless.

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9. Aljami Durham PG - LR unranked



Aljami the Bull gives you the rebounds already and has great size for a PG. Preseason was a little hinky for him so I'm not gonna grown his butt just yet, though.

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10. Guy Beahm SF - LR #5



What's up with this Guy? I may not be a big city lawyer like 'Sam' Houston Pete with a 'flashy car' and 'consideration for dental hygiene', and far be it from me to ask another GM what kind of operation they're running, but when the chickens come home to roost it doesn't make me sad, it makes me glad. Am I suggesting that the Rockets' player development system could benefit from a little old time religion and that they were personally involved in the assassination of President John Kennedy? Baal don't lie.

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stats

pts/tsa blk/36 ast:tov reb/36 pts/36 JSH 3SH xp/t mp Player
1.095 1.78 0.75 9.54 15.27 102.34 10.66 1.093 1075 Mark Alarie PF
1.093 0.93 1.70 7.41 19.75 76.02 49.98 1.105 1435 Len Bias SF
1.151 0.15 1.20 5.10 14.21 76.92 14.08 1.136 955 Ron Harper SF
1.071 0.79 1.12 7.00 21.78 90.67 55.33 1.078 1372 Chuck Person SF
1.106 0.20 5.00 2.78 20.88 87.29 58.71 1.065 362 Mark Price PG
1.131 0.14 0.87 10.05 23.50 65.08 3.92 1.131 1166 Brad Daugherty C
1.175 0.44 0.91 3.39 12.84 83.27 97.73 1.120 854 Kassius Robertson SG
1.054 0.41 2.13 4.55 23.59 93.00 43.00 1.069 748 Jeff Hornacek* SG
1.075 0.00 2.80 5.83 18.70 69.67 66.33 1.072 788 Aljami Durham PG
1.032 1.33 1.40 8.22 22.56 83.53 29.47 1.024 1393 Guy Beahm SF
1.041 0.33 0.69 9.90 18.82 79.04 11.96 1.036 1225 Arvydas Sabonis C
0.878 0.00 0.00 18.00 24.00 -48.10 84.10 0.878 6 Augusto Binelli C
1.008 0.25 1.50 7.74 15.11 74.17 38.83 0.983 1026 Buck Johnson SF
0.970 0.18 1.40 7.31 7.66 78.89 12.11 1.010 364 Cedric Henderson* PF
0.919 0.60 2.40 6.36 7.56 87.41 38.59 0.975 760 Chink Crossin SG
0.789 1.47 0.71 12.35 8.79 66.85 24.15 0.789 378 Chris Washburn C
1.008 0.30 1.54 4.01 19.25 91.10 54.90 1.040 718 Chuck Chuckovits SG
0.959 0.30 0.88 4.03 4.33 57.72 55.28 0.929 1036 David Wingate SG
0.760 0.00 1.00 6.89 4.60 110.63 50.37 0.928 132 Dean Cain PF
1.007 0.61 0.55 10.62 8.05 54.50 1.50 1.007 1092 Dennis Rodman PF
0.944 0.27 1.60 5.06 5.20 57.72 103.28 0.961 316 Drazen Petrovic SG
1.012 1.25 3.50 3.25 16.25 66.08 46.92 1.012 533 Dwayne Washington PG
0.943 0.00 1.20 7.26 19.42 8.59 -2.59 0.943 821 John Salley PF
1.286 0.00 0.00 0.00 24.00 110.63 2.37 1.286 6 Johnny Dawkins PG
0.977 0.74 0.75 10.21 18.37 73.70 17.30 0.977 776 Kenny Gattison PF
0.984 0.22 1.83 8.33 13.44 67.13 45.87 0.976 1328 Kenny Walker SF
0.989 1.32 1.20 11.56 9.74 97.41 -6.41 0.989 872 Kevin Duckworth C
0.941 0.60 2.33 6.17 11.93 63.95 62.05 0.968 670 Lagerald Vick SG
1.039 0.00 1.60 7.10 5.83 72.02 63.98 1.023 1164 Markis McDuffie SF
0.862 2.47 0.82 9.26 6.38 47.14 -11.14 0.862 193 Marques Bolden C
0.972 0.56 3.00 4.02 12.52 61.37 51.63 0.984 1320 Michael Jackson PG
1.014 0.30 1.75 8.22 9.56 84.72 41.28 1.010 940 Panagiotis Fasoulas C
0.963 0.77 1.06 8.55 17.23 67.61 23.39 0.969 1213 Roy Tarpley C
1.032 0.49 1.88 3.08 21.70 81.16 79.84 1.038 1314 Timo Cruz SG
0.743 0.88 0.43 5.93 5.93 70.95 65.05 0.846 115 Walter Hardaway SF
0.847 1.33 2.00 11.11 5.78 42.61 13.39 0.847 89 William Bedford C

[ahebrewtoo]

Apr 23, 2018 20:39:28 GMT eric said:

9. Aljami Durham PG - LR unranked



Aljami the Bull gives you the rebounds already and has great size for a PG. Preseason was a little hinky for him so I'm not gonna grown his butt just yet, though.

Hinky?  Growning another man's butt?  Great size?  

[eric]

day 90

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1. Mark Alarie PF - LR #1



Still #1, still pretty easily.

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2. Brad Daugherty C - LR #6



Big Brad's efficiency has as expected dropped off, but not far enough to dock him, and he's still giving you the rebounds. Unfortunately he's also still giving the other team the ball and wide open looks at the basket, but someone's gotta be #2.

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3. Ron Harper SF - LR #3



Not much you can harp on Ron for besides defense and rebounding and scoring volume and, to be frank, his mouthwash ain't making it. But when he does deign to shoot it's still money in the bank.

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4. Len Bias SF - LR #2



A little slippage from Len. Still solid, it's not like he's a stiff out there or anything, he could easily go back up a couple rungs by season's end, and could definitely end up being the best player down the road. Not a lot of separation this year.

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5. Chuck Person SF - LR #4



Only behind Bias because of the turnovers. Another narrow gap.

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6. Kassius Robertson SG - LR #7



He's got a backwards jsh/3sh which is not ideal for his long term growth, but when your 3sh is about 100 growth doesn't signify. Some jobs need a hammer, some a vise grip, sometimes you need a Longinus ol' Lance. Give him the ball, let him shoot, and play the rest of the game 4 on 5. Easy.

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7. Aljami Durham PG - LR #9



The departure of the Clown Prince has opened a spot in the Star Chamber, and Durham has bulled his way right in, improving his already nice efficiency and doing enough elsewhere.

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8. Jeff Hornacek* SG - LR #8



Horny only cares about one thing - not running the stupid triangle offense. Also getting buckets. So two things, he cares about two things.

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9. Guy Beahm SF - LR #10



Don't look directly into the Beahm, but this guy is (almost) back up to league average efficiency! Preseason form is still possible! Not plausible, but possible.

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10. Panagiotis Fasoulas C - LR unranked



The polyglottonous Panagiotis is bringing a buttoned down Cup Winner's Cup mentality to razzle dazzle Salt Lake City. You've got the Boss, you've got the Mayor, you've got a General Manager, the future is looking up for smoooooth Jazz! He doesn't play defense so much but that's no call for austerity measures #greekpoliticshumor

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stats

pts/tsa blk/36 ast:tov reb/36 pts/36 JSH 3SH xp/t mp Player
1.104 1.63 1.00 9.25 15.13 100.37 12.63 1.096 1670 Mark Alarie PF
1.091 0.13 0.71 10.75 23.64 65.74 3.26 1.091 1822 Brad Daugherty C
1.134 0.16 1.40 5.30 13.50 77.53 13.47 1.132 1456 Ron Harper SF
1.044 0.96 1.70 7.07 19.61 79.51 46.49 1.059 2150 Len Bias SF
1.063 0.77 1.25 7.18 20.98 93.86 52.14 1.068 2054 Chuck Person SF
1.142 0.45 1.09 3.59 11.50 74.56 106.44 1.122 1350 Kassius Robertson SG
1.097 0.22 3.00 5.52 19.88 68.47 67.53 1.088 1027 Aljami Durham PG
1.079 0.20 1.80 4.33 23.80 94.39 41.61 1.074 897 Jeff Hornacek* SG
1.054 1.21 1.27 8.23 21.07 84.18 28.82 1.045 1968 Guy Beahm SF
1.043 0.29 1.50 8.16 9.77 94.56 31.44 1.042 1457 Panagiotis Fasoulas C
1.047 0.33 0.83 9.97 19.16 75.09 15.91 1.043 2048 Arvydas Sabonis C
0.878 0.00 0.00 18.00 24.00 -48.10 84.10 0.878 6 Augusto Binelli C
1.000 0.14 1.67 7.56 14.15 70.20 42.80 0.968 1439 Buck Johnson SF
1.003 0.30 2.28 3.82 15.99 83.03 42.97 0.992 286 Buddy Jeannette SG
0.949 0.00 1.20 7.33 7.78 63.02 27.98 0.989 389 Cedric Henderson* PF
0.909 0.40 2.00 6.27 7.48 70.95 55.05 0.951 1086 Chink Crossin SG
0.834 1.02 1.14 11.26 8.87 67.52 23.48 0.834 886 Chris Washburn C
0.971 0.31 1.33 4.17 17.22 86.31 59.69 1.042 1415 Chuck Chuckovits SG
0.948 0.30 1.00 3.95 4.41 49.19 63.81 0.968 1280 David Wingate SG
0.760 0.00 1.00 6.89 4.60 110.63 50.37 0.928 132 Dean Cain PF
1.029 0.72 0.64 10.44 8.04 61.99 -5.99 1.029 1800 Dennis Rodman PF
0.944 0.27 1.60 5.06 5.20 57.72 103.28 0.961 316 Drazen Petrovic SG
0.970 1.52 3.22 3.30 14.70 67.34 45.66 0.976 838 Dwayne Washington PG
0.974 0.15 1.04 7.29 21.27 9.79 -3.79 0.974 1452 John Salley PF
1.074 0.00 1.46 4.14 15.31 110.63 2.37 1.074 61 Johnny Dawkins PG
0.974 0.57 0.50 9.85 18.19 73.62 17.38 0.974 1121 Kenny Gattison PF
0.995 0.23 2.12 8.21 13.28 65.28 47.72 1.003 2048 Kenny Walker SF
1.007 1.73 1.25 10.90 9.69 88.70 2.30 1.007 1227 Kevin Duckworth C
0.990 0.41 2.00 6.38 13.17 75.06 50.94 1.039 1103 Lagerald Vick SG
1.014 0.00 4.60 3.10 20.26 86.38 59.62 0.999 589 Mark Price PG
1.034 0.13 1.75 7.23 5.42 76.86 59.14 0.997 1814 Markis McDuffie SF
0.850 2.44 0.80 9.33 6.22 47.14 -11.14 0.850 194 Marques Bolden C
0.999 0.54 2.86 3.78 11.46 68.40 44.60 1.003 1709 Michael Jackson PG
0.977 0.77 1.00 8.30 18.26 65.01 25.99 0.978 1889 Roy Tarpley C
1.275 1.60 1.00 10.40 13.60 #DIV/0! #DIV/0! 1.275 27 Steve Mitchell PG
1.041 0.50 1.81 3.10 21.35 80.45 80.55 1.044 1624 Timo Cruz SG
0.743 0.88 0.43 5.93 5.93 70.95 65.05 0.846 115 Walter Hardaway SF
0.815 1.57 1.00 11.48 5.74 42.61 13.39 0.815 97 William Bedford C

[TimPig]

Anyone want to bet on who ends their career with more win shares, Daugherty or Alarie?

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the guy beahm ranking is absolutely hilarious how tf is he ranked below bias and person. identical stats except 1 more bpg.

is his lack of 3s THAT damaging?

[eric]

Apr 28, 2018 23:29:31 GMT @billykinggm said:

the guy beahm ranking is absolutely hilarious how tf is he ranked below bias and person. identical stats except 1 more bpg.

is his lack of 3s THAT damaging?

threes are worth 150% of twos. it's really hard to make that up efficiency wise. now, unlike certain people who shall go unnamed

XAVIER

MCDANIEL

he's pretty close to getting good efficiency even without them. i kept him low on this one because his regular season (i.e. post position change) has been extremely concerning. i'm hopeful he bounces back to preseason form though, those scrappy rockets need all the help they can get. sure they've got harry 'real life knicks great the horse yes the whole thing yes every time' gallatin and brain 'the main brian' winter, but when you're going up a piercer hitting a robust 43% from the field is that enough? i'm just asking the question

i'm just asking the question

[dump]

you heard it here first

mark alarie > brad daugherty

[eric]

day 120

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1. Mark Alarie PF - LR #1



Wire to wire in the regular season. Elite efficiency, elite handles, elite for 5.0 blocks. You'd like to see some more rebounds but those should come.

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2. Brad Daugherty C - LR #2



Brad "Blake Griffin" Daugherty would be DOA in 4.0, and he'll probably never reach even 1 block per game. That and the iffy handles has to make you wonder if he'll ever be the type of winning player a team can build around, but with buckets like this someone's sure to max him.

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3. Guy Beahm SF - LR #9



His regular season stats are solid across the board. Not great at anything, not bad or even below average at anything either. He's this high because his preseason was just so good that I think there's some real upside, but even if he sticks it out at this level he'll be a solid contributor to any team.

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4. Aljami Durham PG - LR #7



Aljami's turning it on just in time for the playoffs. Also like Rajon Rondo his jumper is a concern, and while his ast:tov is good the raw number of turnovers might be too high to stomach for a championship caliber team. With great rebounds and plus efficiency he's a classic template of a high ceiling point guard - good TCs should bump his Handling attribute considerably, in which case he'll be an all around star. The ceiling is not the floor, however, and if he strikes out in TC he could be headed for a career of Knicks min bids.

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5. Ron Harper SF - LR #3



Perfect for an IRL sixth man role. That's not as much of a thing in sim league so he sits mid ladder. If you'll pardon my French it beats all le h3ck out of Ron Harper 4.0 (career 42/59/16, 4.3 tov/36, other than that he was great).

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6. Kassius Robertson SG - LR #6



Here's a nugget of free advice for new GM Mike, hold onto guys with A Outside Scoring. Like Ron, Kassius doesn't do anything but get buckets, and his ancillary stats aren't quite as good so he's a rung below.

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7. Lagerald Vick SG - LR unranked



It got reeeeal sparse in the lower levels. Vick is a slightly worse version of Guy across the board: a little worse scoring, a little worse rebounding, a little less of a defender, a little more cavalier with the ball. He also didn't play in preseason at all. In the words of noted simulated basketball enthusiast Gennaro Gattuso, guys like this 'sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe s***.' A lot of people forget that.

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8. Arvydas Sabonis C - LR unranked



Another guy who dramatically improved on his 4.0 forebear, Baby Sabo But Still Sabo is a lower middle class man's Daugherty. It's possible, even plausible that he ends up jumping Brad. Or he could hit JBC TCs and bounce around the league on MLEs. One thing's for sure, we can't blame Westbrook for this going wrong.

What am I talking about, of COURSE we can.

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9. Jeff Hornacek* SG - LR #8



Horny can score a little and rebound more than once a quarter.

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10. Len Bias SF - LR #4



Everything aside from the scoring is good, but the scoring is pretty mediocre. He'll probably get maxed anyway.

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rest of lotto:
Chuck Person - really isn't that far from the ladder but i got tired of writing 'middling wing' blurbs
Buck Johnson - poor on offense and defense. would be great on special teams if that was a thing in basketball
Stojko Vrankovic - DNP (bad)
Kenny Walker - makes Buck Johnson look like Kenny Walker. they're the same guy. that's the joke
Drazen Petrovic - barely shot the ball, and when he was terrible at it
Dennis Rodman - something tells me there aren't too many DPOYs in his future. or contract offers
John Salley - 4.0 big man scoring and 5.0 big man shot blocking. not great, bob john

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stats

pts/tsa blk/36 ast:tov reb/36 pts/36 JSH 3SH xp/t mp Player
1.109 1.73 1.00 9.86 15.41 100.20 12.80 1.103 2307 Mark Alarie PF
1.074 0.13 0.71 11.06 23.06 65.40 3.60 1.074 2189 Brad Daugherty C
1.071 1.10 1.30 8.15 19.82 82.00 31.00 1.067 2681 Guy Beahm SF
1.074 0.00 2.92 5.77 19.38 68.86 67.14 1.096 1279 Aljami Durham PG
1.124 0.16 1.40 5.49 13.08 78.72 12.28 1.127 1829 Ron Harper SF
1.092 0.47 1.00 3.90 10.29 81.04 99.96 1.102 1894 Kassius Robertson SG
1.010 0.40 1.75 6.67 13.15 74.73 51.27 1.057 1460 Lagerald Vick SG
1.054 0.22 0.83 10.41 19.50 74.25 16.75 1.051 2665 Arvydas Sabonis C
1.060 0.31 2.00 4.21 22.60 93.16 42.84 1.049 1594 Jeff Hornacek* SG
1.033 1.17 1.73 6.92 19.70 79.84 46.16 1.036 2772 Len Bias SF
0.878 0.00 0.00 18.00 24.00 -48.10 84.10 0.878 6 Augusto Binelli C
0.988 0.18 1.71 7.60 14.11 72.37 40.63 0.972 1612 Buck Johnson SF
0.958 0.32 1.63 4.33 15.52 78.35 47.65 0.943 1159 Buddy Jeannette SG
0.952 0.00 1.25 7.58 8.12 70.95 20.05 0.997 412 Cedric Henderson* PF
0.931 0.38 1.86 6.41 7.54 74.92 51.08 0.942 1566 Chink Crossin SG
0.877 1.11 1.13 11.58 9.04 67.04 23.96 0.877 1453 Chris Washburn C
0.968 0.42 1.40 4.17 13.67 85.00 61.00 1.023 2312 Chuck Chuckovits SG
1.050 0.78 1.19 6.98 20.60 91.93 54.07 1.050 2665 Chuck Person SF
0.998 0.30 1.00 4.08 4.54 51.68 61.32 0.981 1523 David Wingate SG
0.760 0.00 1.00 6.89 4.60 110.63 50.37 0.928 132 Dean Cain PF
1.015 0.60 0.55 10.64 7.89 56.56 -0.56 1.015 2468 Dennis Rodman PF
0.944 0.27 1.60 5.06 5.20 57.72 103.28 0.961 316 Drazen Petrovic SG
0.931 1.54 2.90 3.34 13.89 60.31 52.69 0.946 1092 Dwayne Washington PG
0.974 0.16 1.05 7.36 21.12 9.82 -3.82 0.974 1598 John Salley PF
1.074 0.00 1.46 4.14 15.31 110.63 2.37 1.074 61 Johnny Dawkins PG
0.994 0.57 0.63 9.71 18.67 75.99 15.01 0.994 1550 Kenny Gattison PF
0.987 0.11 2.19 7.84 12.83 66.62 46.38 1.003 2599 Kenny Walker SF
1.014 1.81 2.00 11.04 9.59 90.79 0.21 1.014 1632 Kevin Duckworth C
1.326 0.00 #DIV/0! 4.91 16.36 -48.10 194.10 1.221 31 Malik Newman SG
1.017 0.25 4.20 3.80 20.03 77.69 68.31 0.995 880 Mark Price PG
0.991 0.13 1.44 6.89 5.20 80.40 55.60 0.979 2271 Markis McDuffie SF
0.906 2.09 0.69 9.16 6.43 55.42 -19.42 0.906 582 Marques Bolden C
0.990 0.59 3.11 3.66 10.68 68.31 44.69 0.981 2017 Michael Jackson PG
1.024 0.28 1.45 8.26 10.09 93.16 32.84 1.014 2005 Panagiotis Fasoulas C
0.972 0.63 1.11 8.31 18.63 67.41 23.59 0.975 2345 Roy Tarpley C
1.802 0.00 #DIV/0! 0.00 18.00 110.63 -19.63 1.802 4 Scott Meents C
1.300 0.82 1.00 9.00 10.64 #DIV/0! #DIV/0! 1.300 35 Steve Mitchell PG
1.052 0.50 1.81 3.00 21.50 84.67 76.33 1.056 2246 Timo Cruz SG
0.886 0.81 0.50 6.13 7.59 89.47 46.53 0.963 245 Walter Hardaway SF
0.904 1.59 2.00 11.12 6.35 47.14 8.86 0.904 136 William Bedford C

[dump]

team eric over software bullshit