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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 0:22:25 GMT
if theres no more camps we're only increasing total upgrades by 5 and that will have minimal impact
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Post by skrouse on Jun 6, 2020 3:28:13 GMT
I like the idea of modifiers
Tier 1 Upgrades - x1.5
Inside
Jumper
Blocks
Tier 2 Upgrades - x1
Strength
Handling
Threes
O/D Rebounding
Tier 3 Upgrades - x.75
Everything else
Step 1 - x1
First 15 in any category
Step 2 - x2
Second 15 in any category
Step 3 - x3
Last 10 in any category
40 point total for each player, no more offseason camps
No player can get more than 20 points in one seasonStill have shot-blocking caps by position, jumper cap at 85, and I’d suggest an inside cap for bigs at 90, SF at 85, then the SG and PG ones we already have
Posting my pod reactions here because there relevant to the thread. Will be sure to post bucks over there.
- first 40 mins of pod had its ups and downs, but was a good listen to gain some perspective for sure. appreciate all of your services as commish.
Ahem, I was a umm 2.0 OG...
- 40 mins into the pod reaction
With no draft picks, cap will be new currency needed to acquire rookies, won't be guaranteed like a pick but you at least get a seat at the table. Everyone will want soft cap.
I think a must in a Rookie FA is no more salary restrictions on trades. Trading cap space for a good player makes sense for both teams, and theoretically the team getting the better player should be the one taking on the (long term) cap, a la trading away their ability to bid on a Rookie with top dollar in FA.
I think lifting the restriction will result in a more balanced situation by simultaneously creating a currency to replace picks while in exchange prevent the "rich from getting richer" situation we've seen with wheel based draft picks.
Of course there could be gems on cheap deals that still result in unbalanced trades, but I think those would be less obvious at first glance, and they won't be the LBJ's or TMac's of the league.
-45 mins into pod reaction
Not a fan at all of tiered upgrades, that will put too much emphasis on the need for excess pennies for player development, I think we need to keep that at a relatively mild level to keep league interest high. I understand we want to reward more active gms, but over incentivizing the need for pennies to be able to fully develop your players would only widen the gap between the haves and have not's.
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Post by kn88 on Jun 6, 2020 5:28:45 GMT
dibs on the 6.0 bullets
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Post by eric on Jun 6, 2020 13:52:55 GMT
I think a must in a Rookie FA is no more salary restrictions on trades. Trading cap space for a good player makes sense for both teams, and theoretically the team getting the better player should be the one taking on the (long term) cap, a la trading away their ability to bid on a Rookie with top dollar in FA.
I think lifting the restriction will result in a more balanced situation by simultaneously creating a currency to replace picks while in exchange prevent the "rich from getting richer" situation we've seen with wheel based draft picks. i feel like this would have the opposite effect though. look at the present offseason: suppose someone else signs Oscar for $5m, then tim trades them 50k for him straight up. disaster, right? whereas in the same present offseason tim probably wouldn't have been able to add any profile players to his team bidding the minimum, since he probably wouldn't risk the mle while trying to get his expirings back |
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Post by skrouse on Jun 6, 2020 14:27:35 GMT
i feel like this would have the opposite effect though. look at the present offseason: suppose someone else signs Oscar for $5m, then tim trades them 50k for him straight up. disaster, right? whereas in the same present offseason tim probably wouldn't have been able to add any profile players to his team bidding the minimum, since he probably wouldn't risk the mle while trying to get his expirings back I don't necessarily think it's a disaster to trade a 5 Mil player for 50K pennies, unless it's a rare case like Diallo, probably the best hidden gem thus far. I believe Fair Market Value will weed this scenario out I can almost guarantee Oscar won't go for 5 mil this year. And if it's a 17 mil contract or something around that, then that's a lot of cap to take on when you consider one's soft cap will be the currency to acquire rookies. And a gm is only really doing that to improve an already good team, so it accomplishes the goal of limiting rich get richer in terms of acquiring future young stars. I don't think the draft system will ever eliminate teams selling good players to already good teams, no matter the currency that market flow will occur. I think using a currency that directly correlates to a fair shot of acquiring the next generation of talent is a positive. |
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Post by IanBoyd on Jun 6, 2020 18:48:47 GMT
i'll for sure join for 6.0 if faded logos are the standard
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Post by eric on Jun 6, 2020 23:40:30 GMT
i'll for sure join for 6.0 if faded logos are the standard they won't be |
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Post by rw on Jun 7, 2020 16:09:32 GMT
I'm a bit new but I have a 6.0 idea. Ban Ian.
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Post by TimPig on Jun 7, 2020 18:26:25 GMT
I'm a bit new but I have a 6.0 idea. Ban Ian. I would appreciate Ian's return. |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jun 7, 2020 18:32:24 GMT
ericQuestions about creation players: 1. Players who played in the ABA, but never the NBA... are they fair game? (like Larry Brown or Fly Williams, for example) 2. International players with long established careers (to pull stats and attributes from) that never played in the NBA? (like Sergio Llull or Oscar Schmidt, for example) 3. Where do you want Len Bias in all of this? (since Druce just asked)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 19:42:03 GMT
ericQuestions about creation players: 1. Players who played in the ABA, but never the NBA... are they fair game? (like Larry Brown or Fly Williams, for example) 2. International players with long established careers (to pull stats and attributes from) that never played in the NBA? (like Sergio Llull or Oscar Schmidt, for example) 3. Where do you want Len Bias in all of this? (since Druce just asked) 4. what about guys who played in the dleague but never/havent made it to the nba |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jun 7, 2020 19:45:40 GMT
eric Questions about creation players: 1. Players who played in the ABA, but never the NBA... are they fair game? (like Larry Brown or Fly Williams, for example) 2. International players with long established careers (to pull stats and attributes from) that never played in the NBA? (like Sergio Llull or Oscar Schmidt, for example) 3. Where do you want Len Bias in all of this? (since Druce just asked) 4. what about guys who played in the dleague but never/havent made it to the nba
eric said ABA only careers are OK, so I would assume that would apply to the D/G League
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2020 20:08:00 GMT
ericQuestions about creation players: 1. Players who played in the ABA, but never the NBA... are they fair game? (like Larry Brown or Fly Williams, for example) 2. International players with long established careers (to pull stats and attributes from) that never played in the NBA? (like Sergio Llull or Oscar Schmidt, for example) 3. Where do you want Len Bias in all of this? (since Druce just asked) yes yes no 4. what about guys who played in the dleague but never/havent made it to the nba yes |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jun 7, 2020 20:10:39 GMT
no is not an answer to that
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2020 20:57:15 GMT
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Post by TimPig on Jun 8, 2020 2:04:05 GMT
Based on the profile creation criteria, it seems we’re going to use the same software?
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Post by eric on Jun 8, 2020 2:14:03 GMT
Based on the profile creation criteria, it seems we’re going to use the same software? i see no reason to change to be clear though we have 7 months for things to change |
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Post by eric on Jun 12, 2020 17:20:59 GMT
since i'm going to be running a test sim anyway, how do people feel about allowing scouting for creation draft
it would necessarily slow it down, and we would probably have some kind of per-gm limit beyond $$$
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Post by Druce on Jun 12, 2020 17:25:30 GMT
since i'm going to be running a test sim anyway, how do people feel about allowing scouting for creation draft it would necessarily slow it down, and we would probably have some kind of per-gm limit beyond $$$ well since i'm team "show all the attributes" i'm certainly for this |
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