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Post by jhb on Mar 24, 2020 15:45:24 GMT
If I remember right, he usually slow plays games when he is mafia. him rushing kills is unlike him.  |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 15:48:48 GMT
So the reason I don't think it's JHB is that JHB would not be that surprising of an investigation. He believes himself to be a strong player, and he might expect to be an early night investigation candidate.
Therefore, would he go as hard after mafia #2 Druce as he did on day 2? Seems a poor plan to try to kill your last teammate when you think yourself to be the top investigation candidate among BK, Druce, and yourself.
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Post by cf3234 on Mar 24, 2020 15:50:21 GMT
If I remember right, he usually slow plays games when he is mafia. him rushing kills is unlike him. yes, you usually do less sleuthing and more general strats like killing less active players when mafia. that's what I mean by slow playing. right now, the best thing for the last mafia is for kills to happen with as little discussion as possible because it leaves the town in the dark for the next hit. you want to push through the vote which is unlike you. like I said, I think Ank is the most likely choice, but right now, you are my plan B. If others want to end this day. let's put their vote on ank and let it play out. Hopefully that's GG. |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 15:50:46 GMT
What I do want to stress is that Tim is not cleared by my actions and not being killed on night 2. It's important that this is understood.
My gambit thing and the fallout in the night should not impact how Tim is perceived. If you want a read on Tim, I would look at his actions prior to my gambit.
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Post by jhb on Mar 24, 2020 15:55:43 GMT
yes, you usually do less sleuthing and more general strats like killing less active players when mafia. that's what I mean by slow playing. right now, the best thing for the last mafia is for kills to happen with as little discussion as possible because it leaves the town in the dark for the next hit. you want to push through the vote which is unlike you. like I said, I think Ank is the most likely choice, but right now, you are my plan B. If others want to end this day. let's put their vote on ank and let it play out. Hopefully that's GG. There would be some merit to this if literally every player other than Ank hadn't already cast their initial vote for him |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 15:59:44 GMT
No idea if this will be helpful without context, but JHB visualized BK's vote pattern earlier this way and it was helpful for me.
Day One:
JHB: Bill > No Vote > TimPig > Matt > Canes
Bill: Matt > TimPig > Matt > Ank > Canes > Odin
Ank: Skrouse >
Odin: TimPig >
Druce: Canes > No Vote > Bankz > Canes > Bankz > Canes
TimPig: Druce > Bankz >
Skrouse: Ank > Odin
Soup: Druce > Odin
Matt: Canes > Bill
Canes: Bankz > No Vote > Bill
Bankz: TimPig > No Kill > Canes > Delap
Delap: Ank > Bankz
Bankz and Odin tie; coin flip kills Odin (vanilla civ)
Skrouse (bodyguard) dies protecting ???
Bill also dies targeting ???
Day Two:
JHB: Druce >
Delap: Ank > Druce > Ank > Druce > Ank
Bankz: Druce > Canes
TimPig: Ank > Delap > Ank
Soup: Canes > Ank
Druce: Canes > Delap > Ank
Matt: Druce >
Ank: Delap > Druce
Druce (mafia) dies
Delap (sheriff) is killed by ???
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Post by cf3234 on Mar 24, 2020 16:01:10 GMT
going back to the night kill, Mafia had no choice but to kill delap.
day comes, he can reveal 3 days worth of info and make it GG for the Town.
Let's assume Matt was the kill instead last night
Delap announces he is cop and says that Bankz, Soup, and me were confirmed Civs.
That leaves,
JHB, TimPig, Ank left
Take our shot at Ank, it's either GG or Delap then dies at night because you can't allow a 4th investigation.
2 suspects left and 2 days left. It's GG no matter what.
Delap had to die last night. No other play. Any way you slice it, it was a terrible move by ank last night. He's suspect #1 for sure.
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:02:27 GMT
What I do want to stress is that Tim is not cleared by my actions and not being killed on night 2. It's important that this is understood. My gambit thing and the fallout in the night should not impact how Tim is perceived. If you want a read on Tim, I would look at his actions prior to my gambit. Had the sheriff not been killed (likely outcome prior to Delap revealing), you would've looked really good voting for Druce. My assumption was that folks would believe you, then kill me off, which would prove my innocence and turn everyone back on to you. Not much else to say about it from my perspective, I guess. |
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Post by cf3234 on Mar 24, 2020 16:03:03 GMT
No idea if this will be helpful without context, but JHB visualized BK's vote pattern earlier this way and it was helpful for me. Day One:JHB: Bill > No Vote > TimPig > Matt > Canes Bill: Matt > TimPig > Matt > Ank > Canes > Odin Ank: Skrouse > Odin: TimPig > Druce: Canes > No Vote > Bankz > Canes > Bankz > Canes TimPig: Druce > Bankz > Skrouse: Ank > Odin Soup: Druce > Odin Matt: Canes > Bill Canes: Bankz > No Vote > Bill Bankz: TimPig > No Kill > Canes > Delap Delap: Ank > Bankz Bankz and Odin tie; coin flip kills Odin (vanilla civ) Skrouse (bodyguard) dies protecting ??? Bill also dies targeting ??? Day Two:JHB: Druce > Delap: Ank > Druce > Ank > Druce > AnkBankz: Druce > Canes TimPig: Ank > Delap > Ank Soup: Canes > Ank Druce: Canes > Delap > Ank Matt: Druce > Ank: Delap > Druce Druce (mafia) dies Delap (sheriff) is killed by ??? pretty sure I was day 2 Druce only. |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:03:05 GMT
going back to the night kill, Mafia had no choice but to kill delap.
day comes, he can reveal 3 days worth of info and make it GG for the Town. Let's assume Matt was the kill instead last night Delap announces he is cop and says that Bankz, Soup, and me were confirmed Civs. That leaves, JHB, TimPig, Ank left Take our shot at Ank, it's either GG or Delap then dies at night because you can't allow a 4th investigation. 2 suspects left and 2 days left. It's GG no matter what. Delap had to die last night. No other play. Any way you slice it, it was a terrible move by ank last night. He's suspect #1 for sure. And they don't know he's sheriff if he doesn't make a post after deadline that doesn't count  |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:05:25 GMT
No idea if this will be helpful without context, but JHB visualized BK's vote pattern earlier this way and it was helpful for me. Day One:JHB: Bill > No Vote > TimPig > Matt > Canes Bill: Matt > TimPig > Matt > Ank > Canes > Odin Ank: Skrouse Odin: TimPig Druce: Canes > No Vote > Bankz > Canes > Bankz > Canes TimPig: Druce > Bankz Skrouse: Ank > Odin Soup: Druce > Odin Matt: Canes > Bill Canes: Bankz > No Vote > Bill Bankz: TimPig > No Kill > Canes > Delap Delap: Ank > Bankz Bankz and Odin tie; coin flip kills Odin (vanilla civ) Skrouse (bodyguard) dies protecting ??? Bill also dies targeting ??? Day Two:JHB: Druce Delap: Ank > Druce > Ank > Druce > AnkBankz: Druce > Canes TimPig: Ank > Delap > Ank Soup: Canes > Ank Druce: Canes > Delap > Ank Matt: Druce Ank: Delap > Druce Canes: Druce Druce (mafia) dies Delap (sheriff) is killed by ??? Fixed. Think I caught everyone and hopefully didn't miss any votes. Also cleaned up a couple of the excessive arrows. |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:06:26 GMT
Ah I fucked up. There was a 3-way tie between Bankz and Odin on day 1 so I must have missed one of the votes for Bankz. My bad.
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:10:54 GMT
Canes was the final vote for Bankz day 1, if that makes any difference.
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:28:11 GMT
Where we at on the vote?
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:28:49 GMT
Think it's majority Ank but Eric is out grocery shopping for his parents and hasn't been able to start an official timer. |
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:30:12 GMT
So the official timer on starts when he says so correct?
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:30:59 GMT
Tim is your vote history thing above correct now?
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:31:20 GMT
So the official timer on starts when he says so correct? That's my understanding. No one else is going to lock the thread or announce deaths/roles. |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:32:21 GMT
I believe this is correct. If someone sees a mistake I'm happy to go back and check on it. A lot of votes get cast and it's easy to miss a bolded word out of hundreds of posts. Day One:JHB: Bill > No Vote > TimPig > Matt > Canes Bill: Matt > TimPig > Matt > Ank > Canes > Odin Ank: Skrouse Odin: TimPig Druce: Canes > No Vote > Bankz > Canes > Bankz > Canes TimPig: Druce > Bankz Skrouse: Ank > Odin Soup: Druce > Odin Matt: Canes > Bill Canes: Bankz > No Vote > Bill > Bankz Bankz: TimPig > No Kill > Canes > Delap Delap: Ank > Bankz Bankz and Odin tie; coin flip kills Odin (vanilla civ) Skrouse (bodyguard) dies protecting ??? Bill also dies targeting ??? Day Two:JHB: Druce Delap: Ank > Druce > Ank > Druce > AnkBankz: Druce > Canes TimPig: Ank > Delap > Ank Soup: Canes > Ank Druce: Canes > Delap > Ank Matt: Druce Ank: Delap > Druce Canes: Druce Druce (mafia) dies Delap (sheriff) is killed by ??? |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:33:23 GMT
Maybe this is dumb, but I'm leaning towards folks who voted Druce on Day 2 as likely town. I realize that does not include myself.
But voting for Druce day 2, especially if you did so early, would've been a real risky move if you were mafia trying to make a "cover" vote.
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:35:33 GMT
Maybe this is dumb, but I'm leaning towards folks who voted Druce on Day 2 as likely town. I realize that does not include myself. But voting for Druce day 2, especially if you did so early, would've been a real risky move if you were mafia trying to make a "cover" vote. Day two we tried to split votes then get a read. Then all shit broke loose. |
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Post by matt on Mar 24, 2020 16:38:25 GMT
I think if Ank is not the 3rd mafia, I am getting feels from Soup as the final mafioso. He threw a random vote on Druce on day 1 and then changed it to Odin who Bill also had a vote on. On day 2, he’s on Ank and Canes and is now trying to push a faster vote on Ank. Just putting my thinking out there into the world in case I get killed tonight
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:45:26 GMT
when I voted druce it gave him the most votes. I switched to Odin due to inactivity which a lot of people seemed to do.
I voted canes day 2 because of how he was acting. We then decided as a group to split the votes to see how people acted. People were on druce so naturally I went on ank to force a tie and go to OT. Then some wonky shit happened.
How am I pushing a faster vote on Ank? by asking what the tally is and if the official timer would start when eric acknowledges it?
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Post by soup on Mar 24, 2020 16:50:22 GMT
door dash employs the dumbest motherfuckers
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Post by matt on Mar 24, 2020 16:54:06 GMT
Here are the remaining players and my thinking but I could be 100% off and Bill can call me dumb again
Me - vanilla civ
Canes - only person that both Bill and Druce both had votes on at some point in the game
Jhb - lots of vote changing on day 1 but only voted Druce on day 2, that seems risky strategy to be only mafia left
Tim - think he’s civ
Bankz - has been fairly quiet outside of argument with Bill on day 1
Soup - probably not mafia though if it’s not ank, I think it’s him
Ank - tried his fake cop routine, seems most likely to be mafia
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:57:10 GMT
Bankz - has been fairly quiet outside of argument with Tim on day 1 FTFY  |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 16:58:33 GMT
Here are the remaining players and my thinking but I could be 100% off and Bill can call me dumb again Me - vanilla civ Canes - only person that both Bill and Druce both had votes on at some point in the game Jhb - lots of vote changing on day 1 but only voted Druce on day 2, that seems risky strategy to be only mafia left Tim - think he’s civ Bankz - has been fairly quiet outside of argument with Bill on day 1 Soup - probably not mafia though if it’s not ank, I think it’s him Ank - tried his fake cop routine, seems most likely to be mafia Also I am pretty certain Ank isn't mafia at this point. We can't keep him alive, but it feels like he wouldn't be dumb enough to play it the way he did if he was mafia. It seems more likely, as he put it, that he's an arrogant townie who, by trying to be five steps ahead of everyone else, ended up hurting the town. |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 17:05:51 GMT
My thoughts as well:
Me - Vanilla Civ
Canes - Not getting a good sense either way; I could very much see him trying to play things safe and stay out of the crosshairs
JHB - I think the case he made against Druce and subsequent vote for him on Day 2 mean he's Civ; while he voted a lot on Day 1, two of those votes were jokes (one voting for BK and the second just to remove said joke vote)
Matt - Voted for BK and Druce; I think he's town
Bankz - Has been extremely quiet except for the extensive argument he had with me on Day 1; has literally only voted for Ank on Day 3 without offering additional thought; might believe the case against Ank is so cut and dry that no explanation is needed, but it's iffy
Soup - Don't have much of a read on him; he and Canes are in a similar boat for me
Ank - I think he's a civ who messed up but still has to die
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 17:11:02 GMT
I think the answer is going to be a resounding no.
But any chance I can be left for the last execution?
We're going to get 3 cracks at this. Seems I'm destined to be one of them. I get it.
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 17:11:48 GMT
I think the answer is going to be a resounding no. But any chance I can be left for the last execution? We're going to get 3 cracks at this. Seems I'm destined to be one of them. I get it. Yeah I don't really see that happening... |
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