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Post by TimPig on Jan 15, 2020 18:49:56 GMT
Something that I've brought up in Shout a time or two and it generated a little bit of interest, so I wanted to open the discussion formally.
How would we feel about something like this? It happens in real life from time to time, so I thought it might be fun here. Obviously there'd have to be some huge (and difficult) requirements in place, but I was thinking something along the lines of:
- Player must be under 36
- Team must have been a playoff team the year prior
- Player must be in a starting or backup role the entire season (barring injury)
- Player can't be traded
- Salary would be equivalent to the final year of their last contract, or base it on win shares like we do with re-signings (either way, it should be very high)
- Significant Pig Penny cost (50,000?)
- Once every five years
Just spitballing those ideas and costs. Not attached to any of them except "playoff teams only". Maybe there could also be a bidding system of some sort? I'd also be fine with them only being eligible to return to their most recent team.
Eric didn't shoot the idea down immediately in Shout the last time I brought it up, so I have to believe there is a way in the software to make it happen (just copy/paste attributes?). Perhaps we'd even implement some sort of automatic regression if this was used (-5 in every attribute?).
I'm not sure it'd get used all that often, but I can see a situation like mine this year where I'd be willing to use quite a few resources to bring back a third big like Olden, Silas, or Greg Monroe for one year. I bet someone else out there would be willing to pay to bring back Steve Nash.
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Post by skrouse on Jan 15, 2020 18:54:42 GMT
A no for now but my mind could be changed.
What are some other examples of players this could have been applied to?
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Post by TimPig on Jan 15, 2020 18:57:50 GMT
A no for now but my mind could be changed. What are some other examples of players this could have been applied to? In real life or sim league? Looking back at the past few years and guys who may have been attractive... 2031: Olden Polynice, Paul Silas, Steve Nash 2030: Tim Duncan, DeMarcus Cousins 2029: Probably no one 2028: Shawn Kemp Disclaimer I don't know all of their ages when they retired, but since we could be flexible with that it shouldn't make a difference in our decision-making. |
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Post by eric on Jan 15, 2020 19:15:49 GMT
- Player must be in a starting or backup role the entire season (barring injury) - Player can't be traded is this for the season before or the season after i would first try to do it by resimming retirings until they didn't, that way they'd have the same PID and player pages wouldn't be messed up. if that turns out to be prohibitive i'd just c/p and they could just DEAL WITH IT |
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Post by TimPig on Jan 15, 2020 19:33:20 GMT
- Player must be in a starting or backup role the entire season (barring injury) - Player can't be traded is this for the season before or the season after i would first try to do it by resimming retirings until they didn't, that way they'd have the same PID and player pages wouldn't be messed up. if that turns out to be prohibitive i'd just c/p and they could just DEAL WITH IT Player can't be traded in their "return" season. So the season after they "don't" retire. But again, flexible. The idea just being that a player IRL would probably negotiate a no-trade clause and wouldn't come out of retirement to get benched (though this may not be necessary because who is going to pay 50k for a third-stringer). |
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Post by jhb on Jan 15, 2020 20:37:33 GMT
Nah
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Post by skrouse on Jan 15, 2020 20:56:25 GMT
I kinda want to avoid special player rules/restrictions. Like when we eliminated the G and F positions, it was really nice. This would obviously be a much smaller pool of players but still. Simpler is better.
Upgrade stuff is a one time thing, don't have to take it into account for trades and DCs, so i don't mind the nuances around those like camps and the HGH stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 21:09:32 GMT
meh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 21:10:30 GMT
i would be more interested in paying to insure a player doesnt retire
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Post by skrouse on Jan 15, 2020 21:33:21 GMT
i would be more interested in paying to insure a player doesnt retire I like this more, but how long would it last?
Pay like 25K for 1 season, 50K for 2 season, 75K for 3? and it only prevents retirement once. So if you paid for 3 and he retired the first year, the insurance would be gone for the next 2.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 22:21:34 GMT
its a cool idea timpig but i think the implementation is a bit too much
if we cvould come up with something super simple that you could sum up in like 1 sentence people would get behind it
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Post by TimPig on Jan 15, 2020 22:23:39 GMT
its a cool idea timpig but i think the implementation is a bit too much if we cvould come up with something super simple that you could sum up in like 1 sentence people would get behind it Pay 50k to bring a player out of retirement one time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 22:26:32 GMT
its a cool idea timpig but i think the implementation is a bit too much if we cvould come up with something super simple that you could sum up in like 1 sentence people would get behind it Pay 50k to bring a player out of retirement one time.
i'd vote yes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 22:29:47 GMT
i would be more interested in paying to insure a player doesnt retire I like this more, but how long would it last?
Pay like 25K for 1 season, 50K for 2 season, 75K for 3? and it only prevents retirement once. So if you paid for 3 and he retired the first year, the insurance would be gone for the next 2.
thats far more complicated than i had in mind pay 25k and eric changes age to idk 20 or whatever at the end of the playoffs. limited? unlimited? idk |
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Post by eric on Jan 16, 2020 0:11:31 GMT
i would be more interested in paying to insure a player doesnt retire I like this more, but how long would it last?
Pay like 25K for 1 season, 50K for 2 season, 75K for 3? and it only prevents retirement once. So if you paid for 3 and he retired the first year, the insurance would be gone for the next 2.
i will absolutely only keep track of 1 season making it insurance instead of reactive along with odin's age approach also means i don't have to do any re-sims. i really like that start it at 25k, step it down if no one uses it can only be used for each player once because we don't want a bunch of 40 year olds, am i right fellow kids |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 1:19:03 GMT
yeah but what if we just straight up reduced players ages by xx000 pennies
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Post by jhb on Jan 16, 2020 2:11:03 GMT
No
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Post by TimPig on Jan 16, 2020 2:15:46 GMT
Whatever eric people hate my idea so just forget I even said anything |
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Post by eric on Jan 16, 2020 2:24:37 GMT
this guy gets it Whatever eric people hate my idea so just forget I even said anything settle down assistant to the regional commissioner |
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