Post by eric on Nov 12, 2018 18:53:04 GMT
gonna keep posting these in the articles so they're all together
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 3, 2, 24(!!!)
SG: x, x, 4 (if both were SG Taurasi and Bridges would be #1 and #2 of SG)
SF: x, 3, 2 (Watford would be #2 of SF behind Bridges)
PF: 7, 5, 1
C_: 3, 1, 2
Okay so it's pretty messy, and even untangling it the voters still did a pretty bad job.
Bossert at 12.9 should be on a team even taking into account Taurasi and Bridges being misplaced to his position.
Melton clearly is here on the strength of his All Defense but his offense woof. Neither his scoring or passing are outright bad, but neither are they good, and as you can imagine with twenty players to pick from there are PLENTY of deserving candidates ahead of him. Even a Brain Winter legacy 'well he missed half the season' award would be better than this.
The bigs are tough to deal with since there are a whopping eleven players in double figure win shares, to be fair. To also be fair, his name is Firsto, folks. If you're the sixth best player in the league you should probably be recognized among the six best bigs in the league. Seems pretty simple. 4.0 Knicks legend Champ Godbolt is similarly snubbed but who even knows what state Wisconsin is in anyway.
You know what else seems pretty simple, Yao is the best player in the league, easily. The voters clearly recognize he's a better defender than Simi, he's clearly a better scorer with the same 30 points per game on a MUCH better team on 53/83 %s instead of 51/67, and he even turns it over less. Yao's robbed of the All-NBA First Team and robbed of the MVP.
Oh wait, what color is Taurasi's skin again? I'm just asking the question, #heavyreign.
point guard
shooting guard
small forward
power forward
center
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 3, 2, 24(!!!)
SG: x, x, 4 (if both were SG Taurasi and Bridges would be #1 and #2 of SG)
SF: x, 3, 2 (Watford would be #2 of SF behind Bridges)
PF: 7, 5, 1
C_: 3, 1, 2
Okay so it's pretty messy, and even untangling it the voters still did a pretty bad job.
Bossert at 12.9 should be on a team even taking into account Taurasi and Bridges being misplaced to his position.
Melton clearly is here on the strength of his All Defense but his offense woof. Neither his scoring or passing are outright bad, but neither are they good, and as you can imagine with twenty players to pick from there are PLENTY of deserving candidates ahead of him. Even a Brain Winter legacy 'well he missed half the season' award would be better than this.
The bigs are tough to deal with since there are a whopping eleven players in double figure win shares, to be fair. To also be fair, his name is Firsto, folks. If you're the sixth best player in the league you should probably be recognized among the six best bigs in the league. Seems pretty simple. 4.0 Knicks legend Champ Godbolt is similarly snubbed but who even knows what state Wisconsin is in anyway.
You know what else seems pretty simple, Yao is the best player in the league, easily. The voters clearly recognize he's a better defender than Simi, he's clearly a better scorer with the same 30 points per game on a MUCH better team on 53/83 %s instead of 51/67, and he even turns it over less. Yao's robbed of the All-NBA First Team and robbed of the MVP.
Oh wait, what color is Taurasi's skin again? I'm just asking the question, #heavyreign.
point guard
13.6 Daniel Taurasi
12.7 Max Zaslofsky
12.7 Shamorie Ponds
9.3 Skylar Diggins
8.8 AJ Guyton
8.8 RJ Cole
8.7 Andre Turner
8.4 Markell Johnson
8.3 Marcus Taylor
8.0 Jordan McLaughlin
7.9 Courtney Alexander
7.1 Jason Williams
7.0 Bobby McDermott
6.8 Brain Winter
6.5 Sarunas Jasikevicius
6.4 Khalid El-Amin
6.3 Elle Okobo
6.3 Ray McCallum Jr.
6.3 Jalen Brunson
6.2 Malik Newman
5.9 Isaiah Canaan
5.8 Ulaakees Galmuseeth
5.1 Tito Maddox
4.9 De'Anthony Melton
4.4 Mark Price
4.0 Trevon Duval
3.6 Thomas Wilder
3.1 Landyn Freshwater
2.7 Chris Chiozza
2.6 Byron Scott*
2.5 Hassani Gravett
2.4 John Paxson
2.2 Trey Burke
1.9 Cecil Exum
1.7 Seventh Woods
1.5 LaBradford Smith
1.5 Ian Miller
1.4 Nemanja Nedovic
1.3 Rob Gray
1.2 Alex Schmidt
1.1 Igor Rakocevic
1.1 Barry Obama
1.0 Ayo Dosunmu
1.0 Aljami Durham
1.0 Flip Murray
0.9 Juan Dixon
0.8 Rafer Alston
0.7 Reggie Bullock
0.6 Greg Anthony
0.6 Smush Parker
0.5 Speedy Claxton
0.5 Sedale Threatt
0.1 Otto Porter
0.1 Theo Hilinski
0.1 Jevon Carter
0.0 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
0.0 Darrian Ringo
0.0 Bostjan Nachbar
0.0 Mark Jones
0.0 Jason Hart
-0.1 Terrell Brandon
-0.1 Gregory Barlow
-0.1 Randy Brown*
-0.1 Greg Sutton*
-0.1 Chris Corchiani
-0.2 Jon Elmore
-0.2 Ennis Whatley
-0.2 Dirk Minniefield
-0.6 Peyton Siva
-0.6 Dwayne Washington
-1.1 Trae Young
-1.4 Myron Brown
-3.8 Dominic Outlawshooting guard
12.9 Gary Bossert
11.7 Victor Oladipo
10.8 Cameron Reddish
10.8 Collin Sexton
10.2 Nick King
9.2 Caron Butler
8.9 DerMarr Johnson
8.8 Jay Williams
8.4 Larry Hughes
7.7 Mustapha Heron
7.5 Michael Jordan
7.3 Cuttino Mobley
7.0 LiAngelo Ball
7.0 Deng Adel
6.9 Vince Carter
6.7 Dazon Ingram
6.3 Rick Fox
5.8 Quentin Richardson
5.7 Kareem Rush
5.5 Clarence Withers
5.5 Butch McRae
5.2 Devin Durrant
5.2 Mikal Bridges
5.1 Dajuan Wagner
4.1 Quade Green
3.3 Stacey Augmon
3.3 Kelan Martin
3.0 Ken Nielsen
2.7 DJ Hogg
2.6 Jalek Felton
2.5 Jeff Hornacek*
2.5 Anfernee Simons
2.4 Tevin Mack
2.4 Drazen Petrovic
2.3 Ricardo Strong
2.3 Meadowlark Lemon
1.9 Roosevelt Chapman
1.9 Jesus Shuttlesworth
1.8 Carsen Edwards
1.4 Khyri Thomas
1.3 Flamingo Bob
1.0 Rodney McCray
0.9 CJ McCollum
0.8 Jim Pollard
0.7 Ricky Davis
0.7 Theo Pinson
0.5 Ben McLemore
0.4 John Petty
0.4 Steve Hood
0.2 Doc Rivers
0.2 Fred Jones
0.1 Erik Saperstein
0.1 Jamaal Franklin
0.0 Leroy Combs
0.0 Craig Ehlo
-0.1 Shavon Shields
-0.1 Ron Harper
-0.2 Mike Miller
-0.3 Devon Hall
-0.3 Devon Hall*
-0.3 Von McDade
-0.4 Jamal Crawford
-1.2 Jannero Pargosmall forward
13.1 Miles Bridges
11.3 Qyntel Woods
10.7 Giannis Antetokounmpo
9.9 Luke Maye
8.8 Rui Hachimura
8.7 Isaac Bonga
8.0 Morris Peterson
7.9 Sekou Doumbouya
7.6 Desmond Mason
7.6 Len Bias
6.9 Troy Brown
6.7 Antawn Jamison*
6.7 Elvis Delle Donne
6.6 Larry Johnson*
6.5 Shu Shuvington
6.3 Chuck Person
5.7 Tyler Blevins
5.6 Paul Pierce
5.6 Herb Jones
5.0 Kevin Knox
4.8 Shabazz Muhammad
4.4 Dale Ellis
4.2 Malcolm Moore
4.1 Clyde Drexler
4.1 Alexis Antetokounmpo
4.1 Whitey Von Nieda
4.0 Kostas Antetokounmpo
4.0 Bones McKinney
4.0 Benji Wilson
3.7 Chink Crossin
3.7 Jim Halpert
3.1 Jackie Moon
2.3 Ron Kellogg
2.1 Luka Doncic
2.1 Dzanan Musa
2.1 RJ Barrett
2.0 Chandler Hutchison
1.9 Pace Mannion
1.7 Chris Porter
1.7 Romeo Langford
1.7 Randy Holcomb
1.6 Dan Langhi
1.6 Josh Okogie
1.5 Braxton Key
1.4 York Gross
1.2 Michael Young
1.2 O'Shae Brissett
1.1 Steve Smith
0.8 Gary Clark
0.7 Kendall Stephens
0.7 Hedo Turkoglu
0.7 Richard Dumas
0.7 Chris Gatling*
0.6 Dean Wade
0.5 Solomon Hill
0.3 Ryan Humphrey
0.0 Anthony Jones*
0.0 Dave Fortson
-0.1 Mike Muscala
-0.2 Alex Len
-0.3 Leo Rautins
-0.8 Billy Owens
-0.9 Kevin Brookspower forward
13.7 Sam Perkins
13.1 Champ Godbolt
13.1 Firsto Picko
12.9 Stephon Templeton
12.7 Amare Stoudemire
11.8 Trendon Watford
11.7 Dolph Schayes
9.1 Al Harrington
8.4 Zion Williamson
8.0 Athansios Cathasach
7.9 Tony Mitchell
7.9 Bol Bol
7.4 Guy Beahm
7.1 Shareef O'Neal
7.1 Killian Tillie
6.9 Drew Gooden
6.8 Peyton Gragg
6.6 Kenyon Martin
6.6 Kenny Gattison
6.1 Cody Zeller
5.4 Stromile Swift
4.8 Livio Jean-Charles
4.8 George Ackles
4.6 Darius Miles
4.6 Tacko Fall
4.1 Udoka Azubuike
3.4 Jontay Porter
3.3 Charles Barkley*
3.0 Rokas Gustys
2.9 Michael Porter Jr*
2.8 Paul Young Thomas
2.7 Dennis Moore
2.7 Etan Thomas
2.5 Mountain Dew Camacho
2.1 Jan Michael Vincent
2.1 Anthony Bennett
2.1 Gorgui Dieng
2.0 Marvin Bagley III
1.9 Elijah Thomas
1.8 Robert Covington
1.6 Stan Haynes
1.6 Jimmy Graham
1.6 Nikoloz Tskitishvili
1.4 Ralph Sampson
1.4 Brad Daugherty
1.2 Joe Fulks
1.0 Nene Hilario
1.0 Victor Alexander
0.9 Robert Williams
0.9 Yommy Sangodeyi
0.8 Luis Scola
0.8 Halawi Winabi
0.7 Paschal Chukwu
0.7 Rashard Lewis*
0.6 Marcus Fizer
0.6 Faye Vincent Reagan
0.6 Yante Maten*
0.5 Chris Washburn
0.4 Carlos Boozer
0.3 Keita Bates-Diop
0.3 Mark Alarie
0.3 Giuseppe Longfellow
0.2 Raef LaFrentz
0.1 Larry Micheaux
0.1 Mark Randall
0.0 Chris Mihm
0.0 Sidney Green
0.0 Antoine Carr
0.0 Jamal Sampson
-0.2 Luc Longley
-0.2 Darrell Lockhart
-0.2 Stanley Roberts
-0.2 Odin James
-0.4 Tom Piotrowski
-0.5 Bobby Fagan
-0.5 Marcus Haislipcenter
14.5 Yao Ming
12.8 Hakeem Olajuwon
11.7 Simisola Shittu
10.3 George Mikan
9.5 Donnell Harvey
9.3 DeAndre Ayton
8.6 Jake Tsakalidis
8.5 Sam Bowie
8.2 Jock Landale
7.7 Mitchell Robinson
7.4 Brandon Griner
6.8 Neon Boudeaux
6.7 Mohamed Bamba
6.3 Frank Blazejowski
6.0 Alex Reese
6.0 Desean Murray
5.9 Zan Tabak
5.7 Thurl Bailey
5.4 Goga Bitadze
5.3 Cameron Parker
5.1 Steve Stipanovich
5.0 Cracker McCallahan
4.6 Stojko Vrankovic
4.2 Aiden Williamson
4.1 Nick Richards
4.0 DeeAndre Hulett
3.7 Kevin Duckworth
3.7 Arvydas Sabonis
3.6 Rich King
3.5 Manute Bol
3.4 Steven Adams
3.2 Jerome Moiso
3.1 Nerlens Noel
3.1 Tryggvi Hlinason
2.8 Kevin Willis
2.7 Dale Davis
2.7 Stromile Allman
2.7 Tyler Davis
2.7 Anas Mahmoud
2.7 Dikembe Mutombo
2.2 Granville Waiters
2.1 Donta Hall
2.0 Dwight McGhee
1.7 Lucas Nogueria
1.7 Freddie McSwain Jr
1.5 Eddie Steitz
1.3 Christ Koumadje
1.1 Donald Hodge
1.1 Renato Vaught
1.1 Bison Dele
1.0 Ajdin Penava
0.8 Dirk Nowitzki
0.7 Otis Thorpe
0.6 Chad Gallagher
0.5 Austin Wiley
0.3 Rudy Gobert
0.1 LeRon Ellis
0.0 Chris Wilcox
0.0 Roy Hinson
0.0 Greg Kite
0.0 Jeff Withey
0.0 Hayden Falwell
0.0 Isaac Austin
0.0 Kobe Maggette
0.0 Melvin Ely
0.0 Michael Olowokandi
0.0 Darren Daye
0.0 Alvaro Teheran
0.0 Darius Bazley
-0.2 Daniel Giddens
-2.1 Dawson Augmon
