Post by eric on Oct 13, 2018 19:10:57 GMT
h/t 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 1, 3, 2
SG: x, 1, 7 (Bridges would be #2 of SG)
SF: 1, 3, x (Tuff Juice would be #4 of SF behind Kewl Hand Luke Maye by only rounding)
PF: 1, 9, 11
C_: x, 1, 3 (Firsto would be... #2 of C)
You're never gonna believe this but Brain Winter was the deserved PG. I can't think of a better signal of how much we changed from 4.0 to 5.0 than an Aaron Harrion / Kyrie Irving tier point guard getting run from the Finals by the likes of the great Quincy McCall and the pretty good Jordan McLaughlin.
Players with 12+ WS by position: 2 points (and one of them isn't even worth a MAX), 2 wings, 3 bigs. Pretty nice distribution. Real solid.
With 11+ WS: 3, 4, 5. Nice.
Nice.
Fractional favorites Pacers getting shut out makes a little more sense when you realize #2 SG Victor Oladipo is treated as a PG by the software, and he's #4 there, and there ain't no All-NBA Fourth Team. Throw in Taurasi missing 20 games there being no D in the name Peterson and it all adds up.
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Comparison of team Win Share totals to team Wins
By far the biggest overperformers of WS are the Mavs, a full ten past the post. I don't remember a case where both fractional odds and Win Shares were so dead set against an overall #1 seed, but hey, there's a reason it's called the Worstern Conference ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lamo
Even more worrisome for Big Ol' Michael Strahan's Dallas is that the second biggest underperformer of WS are the Suns, whom they are likely to face in the second round if they can get past the Seattle Buzzsaw of Ladder Darling Dale Ellis. But hey, maybe the Suns lose in the first round and you can go up against Billion Time Eternal MVP God King Brain Winter instead. So you've got that going for you.
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point guard
shooting guard
small forward
power forward
center
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 1, 3, 2
SG: x, 1, 7 (Bridges would be #2 of SG)
SF: 1, 3, x (Tuff Juice would be #4 of SF behind Kewl Hand Luke Maye by only rounding)
PF: 1, 9, 11
C_: x, 1, 3 (Firsto would be... #2 of C)
You're never gonna believe this but Brain Winter was the deserved PG. I can't think of a better signal of how much we changed from 4.0 to 5.0 than an Aaron Harrion / Kyrie Irving tier point guard getting run from the Finals by the likes of the great Quincy McCall and the pretty good Jordan McLaughlin.
Players with 12+ WS by position: 2 points (and one of them isn't even worth a MAX), 2 wings, 3 bigs. Pretty nice distribution. Real solid.
With 11+ WS: 3, 4, 5. Nice.
Nice.
Fractional favorites Pacers getting shut out makes a little more sense when you realize #2 SG Victor Oladipo is treated as a PG by the software, and he's #4 there, and there ain't no All-NBA Fourth Team. Throw in Taurasi missing 20 games there being no D in the name Peterson and it all adds up.
.
Comparison of team Win Share totals to team Wins
By far the biggest overperformers of WS are the Mavs, a full ten past the post. I don't remember a case where both fractional odds and Win Shares were so dead set against an overall #1 seed, but hey, there's a reason it's called the Worstern Conference ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lamo
Even more worrisome for Big Ol' Michael Strahan's Dallas is that the second biggest underperformer of WS are the Suns, whom they are likely to face in the second round if they can get past the Seattle Buzzsaw of Ladder Darling Dale Ellis. But hey, maybe the Suns lose in the first round and you can go up against Billion Time Eternal MVP God King Brain Winter instead. So you've got that going for you.
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point guard
17.1 Brain Winter
13.2 Max Zaslofsky
11.5 Jay Williams
10.2 Shamorie Ponds
10.2 Ray McCallum Jr.
9.9 Jason Williams
9.8 Malik Newman
9.7 Daniel Taurasi
9.4 Andre Turner
9.0 RJ Cole
8.2 Sarunas Jasikevicius
7.7 Jordan McLaughlin
7.4 Isaiah Canaan
7.4 Mark Price
7.1 Marcus Taylor
6.8 Skylar Diggins
6.6 Jalen Brunson
6.6 Elle Okobo
6.6 Courtney Alexander
6.6 Bobby McDermott
6.4 Thomas Wilder
6.2 De'Anthony Melton
5.9 Markell Johnson
5.9 Seventh Woods
5.3 Landyn Freshwater
5.2 Ulaakees Galmuseeth
4.8 Nemanja Nedovic
4.6 Barry Obama
3.9 Quincy McCall
3.1 Cecil Exum
2.5 Khalid El-Amin
2.4 Igor Rakocevic
2.4 Hassani Gravett
2.2 Rob Gray
2.2 Tito Maddox
2.2 Trevon Duval
2.1 Trey Burke
2.0 Dillon Chambers
1.8 Quade Green
1.5 Flip Murray
1.3 Devon Hall
1.0 John Stockton
1.0 Dajuan Wagner
0.8 Darrian Ringo
0.7 Doc Rivers
0.6 Ian Miller
0.6 Earl Boykins
0.5 Juan Dixon
0.3 Sedale Threatt
0.3 Jason Hart
0.2 Smush Parker
0.2 John Paxson
0.2 Alex Schmidt
0.2 Seth Curry
0.1 Juwanna Mann
0.1 Gregory Barlow
0.1 Jeff Malone
0.1 Speedy Claxton
0.1 Dennis Schroder
0.1 Walter Harris
0.0 Dan Dickau
0.0 Carsen Edwards
0.0 Russell Cross
0.0 Sidney Lowe
0.0 Jevon Carter
0.0 Sergey Karasev
0.0 Peyton Siva
0.0 Frank Williams
0.0 Ennis Whatley
0.0 Cassius Winston
0.0 Tayshaun Prince
-0.1 Khyri Thomas
-0.1 Matisse Thybulle
-0.1 Chimp Godbolt
-0.1 Ayo Dosunmu
-0.1 Jamal Crawford
-0.2 Jon Sundvold
-0.3 Dwayne Washington
-0.5 Matt Barnes
-1.0 Nathan Wootten
-2.0 Dirk Minniefield
shooting guard
13.6 Gary Bossert
11.0 Victor Oladipo
9.7 Caron Butler
9.6 Cameron Reddish
9.2 Butch McRae
9.1 Dazon Ingram
9.0 Larry Hughes
8.8 Collin Sexton
8.6 DerMarr Johnson
7.7 Cuttino Mobley
7.5 Clarence Withers
7.3 Michael Jordan
7.0 LiAngelo Ball
6.5 Deng Adel
6.3 Malcolm Moore
6.1 Quentin Richardson
6.0 Tyler Blevins
5.3 Vince Carter
5.1 Jim Halpert
5.0 Kareem Rush
4.9 Jalek Felton
4.6 Mikal Bridges
4.4 Meadowlark Lemon
4.2 Shabazz Muhammad
4.2 Byron Scott*
4.1 Edgar Jones
4.1 AJ Guyton
3.8 Anfernee Simons
3.6 Chris Chiozza
3.4 Ken Nielsen
3.2 Braxton Key
2.9 CJ McCollum
2.9 RJ Barrett
2.8 Chink Crossin
2.2 DJ Hogg
2.1 Roosevelt Chapman
1.7 Theo Pinson
1.7 Ryan Humphrey
1.7 Ben McLemore
1.6 Eligin Baylor
1.5 Aljami Durham
1.4 Ricky Davis
1.1 Rafer Alston
1.0 Mike Miller
0.8 Jon Elmore
0.8 Shavon Shields
0.7 Pete Holzman
0.7 Craig Ehlo
0.6 Drazen Petrovic
0.6 Luis Wachter
0.6 Josh Okogie
0.5 Jeff Hornacek*
0.5 Chandler Hutchison
0.4 Timo Cruz
0.3 John Petty
0.3 Reggie Bullock
0.2 Casey Jacobsen
0.1 Ron Harper
0.1 Nickolas Kim
0.0 Carlos Clark
0.0 Michael Britt
0.0 Scootsie Doubleday
0.0 Quinndary Weatherspoon
0.0 Mladen Sekularac
-0.1 Jared Terrell
-0.2 Otto Porter
-0.4 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
-0.4 Darrell Walker
-0.7 Tim Hardaway Jr.
small forward
13.3 Guy Beahm
11.8 Miles Bridges
9.8 Giannis Antetokounmpo
9.7 Luke Maye
9.2 Qyntel Woods
9.0 Isaac Bonga
8.7 Morris Peterson
8.6 Rui Hachimura
8.2 Antawn Jamison*
7.9 Nick King
7.7 Trendon Watford
6.9 Chuck Person
6.5 Dale Ellis
6.1 Paul Pierce
6.1 Kevin Knox
6.0 Yante Maten*
6.0 Benji Wilson
5.9 Len Bias
5.7 Mustapha Heron
5.6 Desmond Mason
5.0 Sekou Doumbouya
4.9 Killian Tillie
4.9 Whitey Von Nieda
4.9 Elvis Delle Donne
4.7 Troy Brown
4.3 Alexis Antetokounmpo
4.1 Michael Porter Jr*
3.9 Bones McKinney
3.7 Jackie Moon
3.4 Kelan Martin
2.8 Ricardo Strong
2.7 Jesus Shuttlesworth
2.4 Robert Covington
2.3 Jamaal Franklin
2.2 Clyde Drexler
2.1 Romeo Langford
2.1 Darius Miles
2.0 Tevin Mack
2.0 Ron Kellogg
2.0 Hedo Turkoglu
2.0 Chris Porter
2.0 Pace Mannion
1.8 Vincent Yarbrough
1.6 Jim Pollard
1.4 Dan Langhi
1.3 Grayson Allen
1.3 Flamingo Bob
1.0 Juan Keaney
1.0 Rodney McCray
0.8 Rashard Lewis*
0.8 Michael Young
0.7 Chalky Studebaker
0.7 Yirmiyaho Iair
0.6 Shu Shuvington
0.6 Jan Michael Vincent
0.5 Luka Doncic
0.4 Joe Fulks
0.4 Archie Goodwin
0.2 Devin Durrant
0.1 Gary Clark
0.0 Darren Daye
0.0 Chris Jefferies
power forward
12.4 Dolph Schayes
12.0 Firsto Picko
11.4 Sam Perkins
11.0 Stephon Templeton
9.4 Al Harrington
8.3 Tony Mitchell
8.2 Champ Godbolt
8.1 Athansios Cathasach
8.0 Peyton Gragg
8.0 Livio Jean-Charles
7.9 Zion Williamson
7.2 Drew Gooden
7.0 Shareef O'Neal
6.8 Bol Bol
6.4 Stromile Swift
6.3 Keita Bates-Diop
6.2 Cameron Parker
5.5 Kenyon Martin
5.3 Alex Reese
5.3 Amare Stoudemire
5.3 Anthony Bennett
5.0 Kenny Gattison
4.8 Mark Alarie
4.8 Udoka Azubuike
4.7 Mohamed Bamba
4.2 Herb Jones
3.5 Dzanan Musa
3.3 Erik Saperstein
3.3 Tyler Davis
3.1 Jontay Porter
3.1 Dwight McGhee
2.8 Dirk Nowitzki
2.7 Kostas Antetokounmpo
2.5 Goga Bitadze
2.2 Luis Scola
2.2 Randy Holcomb
2.1 Freddie McSwain Jr
2.1 Charles Barkley*
2.0 Robert Williams
1.7 Elijah Thomas
1.7 Chris Washburn
1.5 Raef LaFrentz
1.4 Nene Hilario
1.4 Ed Mikan
1.1 Nick Richards
0.8 Giuseppe Longfellow
0.5 Jimmy Graham
0.4 Solomon Hill
0.4 Udonis Haslem
0.3 Greg Kite
0.3 George Hauptfuhrer
0.2 Darius Bazley
0.2 Ajdin Penava
0.1 Dean Wade
0.1 Dave Fortson
0.1 Jamal Sampson
0.1 Tobi Oyedeji
0.1 Jason Lyle
0.0 David Andersen
0.0 Tamar Slay
0.0 Ted Kitchel
0.0 Faye Vincent Reagan
0.0 Odin James
0.0 Marcus Haislip
-0.3 Tom Piotrowski
-0.4 Otis Thorpe
-0.5 Roberto Mokray
-0.6 Alex Len
-0.6 Mason Plumlee
-1.1 Dawson Augmon
center
13.8 Yao Ming
9.4 Neon Boudeaux
9.3 Simisola Shittu
9.0 Jake Tsakalidis
9.0 Hakeem Olajuwon
9.0 George Mikan
8.3 Donta Hall
7.7 Brandon Griner
7.6 Jock Landale
7.6 DeAndre Ayton
7.1 Mitchell Robinson
7.0 Steve Stipanovich
6.0 Frank Blazejowski
5.9 Stojko Vrankovic
5.4 Sam Bowie
5.3 Donnell Harvey
5.1 Arvydas Sabonis
5.0 DeeAndre Hulett
4.9 Nerlens Noel
4.8 Cracker McCallahan
4.6 Thurl Bailey
4.6 Cody Zeller
4.4 Brad Daugherty
4.3 Desean Murray
4.1 Marvin Bagley III
4.0 Mountain Dew Camacho
3.8 Paul Young Thomas
3.8 Aiden Williamson
3.7 Mike Muscala
3.2 Lucas Nogueria
3.2 Karim Shabazz
3.1 Marcus Fizer
3.1 Stan Haynes
3.0 Gorgui Dieng
2.9 Etan Thomas
2.9 Michael Olowokandi
2.8 Steven Adams
2.7 Dennis Moore
2.7 Kevin Duckworth
2.6 Jerome Moiso
2.6 Rudy Gobert
2.6 Kevin Willis
2.6 Tacko Fall
2.1 Christ Koumadje
1.9 Ralph Sampson
1.9 Tryggvi Hlinason
1.9 Chris Mihm
1.7 Granville Waiters
1.7 Rokas Gustys
1.6 Austin Wiley
1.3 Daniel Giddens
1.2 Kobe Maggette
1.1 Robert Archibald
1.0 Jared Jeffries
0.7 Manute Bol
0.6 Yommy Sangodeyi
0.5 Sidney Green
0.4 Anas Mahmoud
0.3 Jaren Jackson Jr
0.2 Melvin Ely
0.2 Melvin Turpin
0.2 Randy Breuer
0.2 Carlos Boozer
0.1 Hank Hill
0.1 Paschal Chukwu
0.1 Marques Bolden
0.1 Mark West
0.0 Renato Vaught
0.0 Dan Gadzuric
0.0 Eddie Steitz
0.0 Larry Micheaux
0.0 Darrell Lockhart
-0.7 Jeff Withey