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Post by eric on Sept 24, 2018 19:22:41 GMT
0 ATL
1500 BOS
0 CHA
3000 CHI
1000 CLE
0 DAL
1000 DEN
1000 DET
2500 GS
0 HAR
0 HOU
500 IND
2000 LAC
500 LAL
0 MIA
3000 MIL
1000 MIN
2000 ORL
0 PHO
2500 POR
4000 SAC
1500 SAS
1500 SEA
500 TOR
1500 UTA
2000 WSB
500 WSW
pretty sure this is right, there were a lot of skips though so ymmv
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Post by TimPig on Sept 24, 2018 19:26:07 GMT
Added.
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Post by jhb on Sept 24, 2018 19:37:49 GMT
How did we not get one for our second round pick?
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Post by IanBoyd on Sept 24, 2018 19:40:08 GMT
Blame the forfeit/skips
The official criteria is "pick within x of previous pick"
so if a pick is skipped due to time running out, the next person gets no bucks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:46:13 GMT
Blame the forfeit/skips The official criteria is "pick within x of previous pick" so if a pick is skipped due to time running out, the next person gets no bucks  |
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Post by Taco: Better than a Nacho on Sept 24, 2018 20:30:43 GMT
So many pig pennies, so little time
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Post by eric on Sept 24, 2018 21:22:20 GMT
How did we not get one for our second round pick? i'll say this for everyone, if you think you should have gotten bucks for a pick show your math and claim it in your bank |
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Post by Norman Dale on Sept 24, 2018 22:55:05 GMT
Am I being penalized for the time on pick 20? I gave a list to Tim and I had softball stuff, came home and went to bed. Woke up, saw my pick was up in the AM and made my pick right away.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 23:44:35 GMT
Am I being penalized for the time on pick 20? I gave a list to Tim and I had softball stuff, came home and went to bed. Woke up, saw my pick was up in the AM and made my pick right away. Anyone who sends a list for their pick should get a reward to encourage lists. |
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Post by eric on Sept 24, 2018 23:55:12 GMT
Am I being penalized for the time on pick 20? I gave a list to Tim and I had softball stuff, came home and went to bed. Woke up, saw my pick was up in the AM and made my pick right away. it was more than two hours after 1.19 |
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Post by Norman Dale on Sept 25, 2018 0:26:38 GMT
Am I being penalized for the time on pick 20? I gave a list to Tim and I had softball stuff, came home and went to bed. Woke up, saw my pick was up in the AM and made my pick right away. it was more than two hours after 1.19 Really? 1.19 was made at 4:33AM, TimPig can tell you had a list from me. I made 1.20 at 6:58AM when I woke up. |
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 25, 2018 0:45:43 GMT
it was more than two hours after 1.19 Really? 1.19 was made at 4:33AM, TimPig can tell you had a list from me. I made 1.20 at 6:58AM when I woke up. Just claim it in your bank thread. You won’t get Eric to admit he is wrong even though we know he is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by TimPig on Sept 25, 2018 0:46:49 GMT
Yes, I had a list from SPL.
No, I was not awake at 4:30am Seattle time when JHB made pick 1.19.
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Post by eric on Sept 25, 2018 1:30:47 GMT
Really? 1.19 was made at 4:33AM, TimPig can tell you had a list from me. I made 1.20 at 6:58AM when I woke up. Just claim it in your bank thread. You won’t get Eric to admit he is wrong even though we know he is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk settle down chaotic neutral |
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Post by jhb on Sept 25, 2018 12:24:52 GMT
I made 1.19 in two hours JHB time
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 25, 2018 13:07:49 GMT
Just claim it in your bank thread. You won’t get Eric to admit he is wrong even though we know he is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk settle down chaotic neutral Chaotic good, actually. I assume we're on board that you're lawful neutral? |
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Post by eric on Sept 25, 2018 14:22:17 GMT
settle down chaotic neutral Chaotic good, actually. I assume we're on board that you're lawful neutral? lawful good just like Picard and Javert  |
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 25, 2018 14:37:45 GMT
Chaotic good, actually. I assume we're on board that you're lawful neutral? lawful good just like Picard and Javert No. Lawful good characters do not honor laws that run counter to alignment. You continue to support this rule despite its unfairness. You believe in an orderly rule of law even where the law is not just. You are lawful neutral. |
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Post by eric on Sept 25, 2018 15:38:25 GMT
lawful good just like Picard and Javert No. Lawful good characters do not honor laws that run counter to alignment. You continue to support this rule despite its unfairness. You believe in an orderly rule of law even where the law is not just. You are lawful neutral. leave it to a chaotic to declare that their personal convenience is justice what of the long-suffering valvenis sycodragon breauxcaine Hypothetical Raptors GM, logged in at the time of JHB's pick and suffering those long two hours waiting for a pick that did not come? i suppose their long suffering is your JUSTICE as well? |
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 25, 2018 17:43:53 GMT
No. Lawful good characters do not honor laws that run counter to alignment. You continue to support this rule despite its unfairness. You believe in an orderly rule of law even where the law is not just. You are lawful neutral. leave it to a chaotic to declare that their personal convenience is justice what of the long-suffering valvenis sycodragon breauxcaine Hypothetical Raptors GM, logged in at the time of JHB's pick and suffering those long two hours waiting for a pick that did not come? i suppose their long suffering is your JUSTICE as well? We have a stopped clock in the middle of the night. Or we did. Did you remove that? |
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Post by eric on Sept 25, 2018 18:17:41 GMT
leave it to a chaotic to declare that their personal convenience is justice what of the long-suffering valvenis sycodragon breauxcaine Hypothetical Raptors GM, logged in at the time of JHB's pick and suffering those long two hours waiting for a pick that did not come? i suppose their long suffering is your JUSTICE as well? We have a stopped clock in the middle of the night. Or we did. Did you remove that? sure, i'll pretend this question is asked in good faith the clock is stopped at 22:59 the clock starts again at 11:00 hence if a pick is made at 22:59 and the next pick is made at 11:01, bonus i also count the bonus if a pick is made within 2 hours even if those hours are off clock if a pick is not made within 2 hrs of real time or clock time, there's no bonus i've made a copy of this to paste for next year when you people rehash this for the umpteenth time |
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 25, 2018 18:41:34 GMT
We have a stopped clock in the middle of the night. Or we did. Did you remove that? sure, i'll pretend this question is asked in good faith the clock is stopped at 22:59 the clock starts again at 11:00 hence if a pick is made at 22:59 and the next pick is made at 11:01, bonus i also count the bonus if a pick is made within 2 hours even if those hours are off clock if a pick is not made within 2 hrs of real time or clock time, there's no bonus i've made a copy of this to paste for next year when you people rehash this for the umpteenth time Exactly. Lawful neutral. Your slavish adherence to literal interpretation of a rule results in a counterproductive incentive. If your pick comes up during a dead clock and you're, I don't know, sleeping, you are better off waiting until the live clock to get your bonus. A fair and just rule that would correctly incentivize making timely picks would be to kill the clock during a dead period. Here is an example: Pick 1 is made at 22:30 - the clock stops at 22:59 with 29 minutes passing on a live clock Pick 2 is made at 02:30 - this is 4 hours after the last pick, but only 29 minutes of live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. Pick 3 is made at 6:30 - this is 3 hours after the last pick, but no minutes have passed of a live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. Pick 4 is made at 10:59 - this is 4 hours and 29 minutes after the last pick, but no minutes have passed of a live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. A lawful good alignment would realize adherence to the law you're following has perverse results. A perfect summary: "Lawful neutral beings are concerned with the letter of the law, but rarely the spirit." easydamus.com/lawfulneutral.html |
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Post by eric on Sept 26, 2018 0:27:17 GMT
sure, i'll pretend this question is asked in good faith the clock is stopped at 22:59 the clock starts again at 11:00 hence if a pick is made at 22:59 and the next pick is made at 11:01, bonus i also count the bonus if a pick is made within 2 hours even if those hours are off clock if a pick is not made within 2 hrs of real time or clock time, there's no bonus i've made a copy of this to paste for next year when you people rehash this for the umpteenth time Exactly. Lawful neutral. Your slavish adherence to literal interpretation of a rule results in a counterproductive incentive. If your pick comes up during a dead clock and you're, I don't know, sleeping, you are better off waiting until the live clock to get your bonus. A fair and just rule that would correctly incentivize making timely picks would be to kill the clock during a dead period. Here is an example: Pick 1 is made at 22:30 - the clock stops at 22:59 with 29 minutes passing on a live clock Pick 2 is made at 02:30 - this is 4 hours after the last pick, but only 29 minutes of live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. Pick 3 is made at 6:30 - this is 3 hours after the last pick, but no minutes have passed of a live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. Pick 4 is made at 10:59 - this is 4 hours and 29 minutes after the last pick, but no minutes have passed of a live clock. This should get credit. This person should not be incentivized to wait until 11:01 to make a pick. A lawful good alignment would realize adherence to the law you're following has perverse results. A perfect summary: "Lawful neutral beings are concerned with the letter of the law, but rarely the spirit." easydamus.com/lawfulneutral.htmlthe point of incentivizing draft picks is not because draft picks in and of themselves are good, it's so the next person doesn't have to wait, because making people wait is wrong if people were incentivized to pick at any hour, the next person could find themselves on the clock at any hour, and through no fault of their own cause the next next person to wait that's why i reward for picks made within real time even if not clock time (even though that's not the letter of the law), because that way the next person can know exactly how long the current person will be incentivized to pick the problem isn't that i emphasize the letter of the law over the spirit, it's that i disagree what the spirit is any of those picks being incentivized to wait until 11:01 is not a bug, it's a feature, because that way the person after them knows precisely when they will be expected to pick. |
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Sept 26, 2018 0:36:14 GMT
That was a bad troll Clyde. Be best.
If you honestly believe that is a rational way to think about draft timeliness rewards, please let me know so I can help your neutral alignment toward good. But I assume you meant that as a troll, in which case let’s not waste both our time.
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Post by yawn on Sept 26, 2018 15:18:52 GMT
I'd like you to shove a GLOBE up YOUR ASS with a fair amount of timeliness
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Post by eric on Sept 26, 2018 16:05:43 GMT
I'd like you to shove a GLOBE up YOUR ASS with a fair amount of timeliness humans and their guns butts |
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