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Post by eric on Jul 26, 2018 14:22:27 GMT
I like changing post TC signings.
I don't like restricting bids on day 1.
I like cap holds too, but people appear to hate that so whatever
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Post by jhb on Jul 26, 2018 14:22:59 GMT
I appreciate the input, going to go with the following: No bids MLE or under on day 1. In the post TC signings thread, players will be bid on via silent auction with the cut off being a pre-posted time. Cap space, MLE, and LLE can be used to trump min bids, multiple back and forth bids can be placed on the same player with the high bid winning at the deadline. Can we vote on this? I hate part 1. I would go so far as to say it's one of the worst ideas since the Holocaust. |
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 14:23:36 GMT
i think the rule is dumb and pointless and accomplishes nothing, but those guys aren't signing day 1 so i don't care that much It stops me from having to enter MLE bids on max players, but I appreciate and thank you for your input. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 14:25:52 GMT
i think the rule is dumb and pointless and accomplishes nothing, but those guys aren't signing day 1 so i don't care that much It stops me from having to enter MLE bids on max players, but I appreciate and thank you for your input. You dont have to put those in anyway |
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Post by Majic on Jul 26, 2018 14:34:07 GMT
It stops me from having to enter MLE bids on max players, but I appreciate and thank you for your input. You dont have to put those in anyway  |
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 14:36:30 GMT
I appreciate the input, going to go with the following: No bids MLE or under on day 1. In the post TC signings thread, players will be bid on via silent auction with the cut off being a pre-posted time. Cap space, MLE, and LLE can be used to trump min bids, multiple back and forth bids can be placed on the same player with the high bid winning at the deadline. Can we vote on this? I hate part 1. I would go so far as to say it's one of the worst ideas since the Holocaust. Im interested to hear why you're so opposed to this? |
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Post by Mike on Jul 26, 2018 14:41:31 GMT
Not broken, don't fix it but nvm I'm argentinian.
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jul 26, 2018 14:53:32 GMT
I don't see the problem here that is trying to be fixed.
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jul 26, 2018 14:53:59 GMT
straight up, if a dude has 2 or more MAX bids, just don't enter the MLEs
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Post by ahebrewtoo on Jul 26, 2018 14:59:13 GMT
So I can't offer Cracker McCallahan a 1.5m contract day 1?
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 15:03:32 GMT
I don't see the problem here that is trying to be fixed. It's not a problem per se, it's an attempt at mirroring the real life free agent market. |
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 15:04:15 GMT
So I can't offer Cracker McCallahan a 1.5m contract day 1? Cracker McCallahan tragically passed away due to a hate crime while visiting back woods Indiana. |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jul 26, 2018 15:06:11 GMT
I don't see the problem here that is trying to be fixed. It's not a problem per se, it's an attempt at mirroring the real life free agent market.
Real life the first bids that sign are often randoms and bird years guys. I think teams should be able to do what they want with bids on bird years guys on the 1st day.
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Post by IanBoyd on Jul 26, 2018 15:12:12 GMT
I don't see the problem here that is trying to be fixed. It's not a problem per se, it's an attempt at mirroring the real life free agent market. When FA decisions doesn't remotely mirror real life, everything else to attempt to steer the software towards that only hinders FA, not help it. |
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 15:13:11 GMT
It's not a problem per se, it's an attempt at mirroring the real life free agent market.
Real life the first bids that sign are often randoms and bird years guys. I think teams should be able to do what they want with bids on bird years guys on the 1st day.
IRL Bird year guys also have cap holds, which I've proposed and was shot down on in this very thread. If you've not going to bid over $4.5 mil on a bird guy and someone else is, odds are you're going to lose them anyways. If you're going to bid $1.4 mil/year on a guy w/birds and he gets an MLE offer, odds are you're going to lose them anyways. If they don't get an MLE offer then odds are you're going to keep them anyways. The intention of this isn't bottom of the bucket guys, nor is it max guys, those guys will generally always get similar contracts. The intention is the 2nd tier guys who IRL would sign with teams that have space after max guys are scooped up and are worth more than MLE. |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Jul 26, 2018 15:15:39 GMT
I get that.
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Post by jhb on Jul 26, 2018 15:24:30 GMT
I am vehemently opposed to this.
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 15:25:13 GMT
I am vehemently opposed to this. You continuing to say that without reasoning is redundant and not really helping sway my opinion. |
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Post by Druce on Jul 26, 2018 15:27:36 GMT
Yeah just forget this whole thing, I don't care enough to keep going back and forth with opposition, nice to have some spirited discussion though.
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Post by jhb on Jul 26, 2018 15:40:37 GMT
I am vehemently opposed to this. You continuing to say that without reasoning is redundant and not really helping sway my opinion. Me posting my reasoning would be redundant as well but since I'm going to apparently have to be redundant either way it's more fun for me to flame the thread than paraphrase my well-reasoned argument several times. |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 30, 2018 17:01:01 GMT
Yeah just forget this whole thing, I don't care enough to keep going back and forth with opposition, nice to have some spirited discussion though. Bump so everyone submitting bids sees that these rules are not being implemented. |
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Post by skrouse on Jul 30, 2018 17:43:06 GMT
Completely forgot to come back and view this thread. 100% understand not entering any MLEs for guys that get max offers, maybe have everyone send 2 PMs, or just separate a single PM's bids by Maxes and everything else.
That gives you a clear list of guys you are exempt from entering any MLE bids for.
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Post by TimPig on Jul 30, 2018 17:48:26 GMT
Completely forgot to come back and view this thread. 100% understand not entering any MLEs for guys that get max offers, maybe have everyone send 2 PMs, or just separate a single PM's bids by Maxes and everything else. That gives you a clear list of guys you are exempt from entering any MLE bids for. IMO I think we should just leave it to Druce's discretion. If a guy is getting a bunch of max bids and someone sends an MLE, he should save himself the time and effort. (Braces self for replies explaining how a series of events could lead to an elite player signing an MLE on day one) |
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