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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 15:24:33 GMT
As though two votes for you with 5 hours left in the day is evidence of anything. Literally anyone making a vote right now is doing it to get a reaction. Remember when you tried to play your "I'm a mafia expert" shtick last game and then you were mafia? Just because you play the all-knowing doesn't mean people should or do buy it. i'm not playing all knowing, you just literally voted for me and said "Let's just vote BK off day one". i'm just stating a fact. you're probably not mafia (20% chance), but your move was bad and attacking the messenger (me) doesnt hurt my or help your argument There was no “let’s” about it. I encouraged no one else to vote for you.
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Post by Druce on Apr 15, 2020 15:29:41 GMT
look at tim squirming guys
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Post by cf3234 on Apr 15, 2020 15:34:21 GMT
i suggest making one of the town a detective. otherwise the game is just lopsided. it's gonna be just tossing darts.
you're getting tons of information already, like timpig arguing for an obvious mafia move day 1
there is very little real information to be gained day 1. All mafia needs to do is stay quiet and hope the RNG doesn't fall on them. The best move in the early game is to vote off the weakest players. You are a weak player. Simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 15:40:09 GMT
you're getting tons of information already, like timpig arguing for an obvious mafia move day 1
there is very little real information to be gained day 1. All mafia needs to do is stay quiet and hope the RNG doesn't fall on them. The best move in the early game is to vote off the weakest players. You are a weak player. Simple as that. ^ this is false.
there is very little information to use day 1 to decide on who to vote for day 1. <--- this is true
However, later on, who people voted for day 1 and what they said day 1 could/would become very telling. thats why just blanket voting 1 player every game would ruin the information you could gain from day 1 later on when its day 4 and 5 and you're deciding between druce and timpig or something, ya know?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 15:41:07 GMT
i.e. remember last game when you figured out druce was mafia based on his day 1 posts and votes?
if everyone had just blanket voted me day 1, you wouldn't of had that information. simple
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 15:43:25 GMT
Still looking for the blanket vote that is occurring or that anyone has encouraged...
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Post by soup on Apr 15, 2020 15:57:19 GMT
blanket
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 15:58:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 15:58:51 GMT
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Post by cf3234 on Apr 15, 2020 15:59:20 GMT
i.e. remember last game when you figured out druce was mafia based on his day 1 posts and votes? if everyone had just blanket voted me day 1, you wouldn't of had that information. simple the people who play too hard day 1 are usually suspect. Druce played too hard day 1. Right now, nobody is playing too hard. No kill makes no sense so the option that makes the most sense is to vote out players who are least likely to help later in the game.
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Post by jhb on Apr 15, 2020 16:01:32 GMT
I would say let's not have the weak vs strong argument and instead vote for inactive players because the more we allow people to hide here the easier it will be for mafia to skate by
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Post by soup on Apr 15, 2020 16:02:17 GMT
you're getting tons of information already, like timpig arguing for an obvious mafia move day 1
there is very little real information to be gained day 1. All mafia needs to do is stay quiet and hope the RNG doesn't fall on them. The best move in the early game is to vote off the weakest players. You are a weak player. Simple as that. i.e. remember last game when you figured out druce was mafia based on his day 1 posts and votes? if everyone had just blanket voted me day 1, you wouldn't of had that information. simple the people who play too hard day 1 are usually suspect. Druce played too hard day 1. Right now, nobody is playing too hard. No kill makes no sense so the option that makes the most sense is to vote out players who are least likely to help later in the game. Pick a lane.
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Post by jhb on Apr 15, 2020 16:02:45 GMT
Having said that, switching to Odin
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Apr 15, 2020 16:05:57 GMT
Always pick a weak player or non-GM
in this case both, ank
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 16:07:35 GMT
I would say let's not have the weak vs strong argument and instead vote for inactive players because the more we allow people to hide here the easier it will be for mafia to skate by So...blanket vote an inactive?
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Post by Druce on Apr 15, 2020 16:13:27 GMT
i'm definitely on board with voting for an inactive, i will however wait until further in the day to cast a vote to give everyone an opportunity
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Apr 15, 2020 16:21:47 GMT
BK is right.
Default voting a bad player on day 1 is potentially a good move if you have town investigative roles or other significant town power roles that balance out the night period to be more neutral for the town (or plus for the town if you're playing an absurd BK game).
But with this setup, the night period is a straight up negative for the town. We need to use the days as best we can to gather information.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 16:23:58 GMT
hello i am now awake
bk
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Post by eric on Apr 15, 2020 16:26:49 GMT
3 bill - tim canes odin 2 ank - skrouse delap 2 canes - soup bill 1 odin - jhb 1 jhb - ank no vote - druce no power roles at all for town? that's odd. what's the point then?
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Apr 15, 2020 16:34:33 GMT
We actually should probably do a no-kill in the late game so that it moves to an odd number for total players.
But for the first few days, we need to establish voting records and get people talking.
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Post by cf3234 on Apr 15, 2020 16:35:26 GMT
I would say let's not have the weak vs strong argument and instead vote for inactive players because the more we allow people to hide here the easier it will be for mafia to skate by this is a good argument.
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 16:40:16 GMT
there is very little real information to be gained day 1. All mafia needs to do is stay quiet and hope the RNG doesn't fall on them. The best move in the early game is to vote off the weakest players. You are a weak player. Simple as that. the people who play too hard day 1 are usually suspect. Druce played too hard day 1. Right now, nobody is playing too hard. No kill makes no sense so the option that makes the most sense is to vote out players who are least likely to help later in the game. Pick a lane. This is a good point.
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Post by jhb on Apr 15, 2020 16:55:57 GMT
I would say let's not have the weak vs strong argument and instead vote for inactive players because the more we allow people to hide here the easier it will be for mafia to skate by So...blanket vote an inactive? I wouldn't blanket vote them unless they're going to just not say anything and be a liability Otherwise the strategy is just move to the people participating least and force them to be involved and make moves.
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Post by cf3234 on Apr 15, 2020 17:01:14 GMT
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 17:06:42 GMT
Staying quiet and not staying quiet are not the same lane.
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Post by skrouse on Apr 15, 2020 17:06:47 GMT
I agree, saying what the maf could do to win and also what they could do to be sus is not contradictory. Am I missing something soup TimPig?
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Post by TimPig on Apr 15, 2020 17:08:55 GMT
I agree, saying what the maf could do to win and also what they could do to be sus is not contradictory. Am I missing something soup TimPig ? Point 1: People who stay quiet are suspect Point 2: People who are too loud are suspect
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 17:13:34 GMT
maybe lets not just argue semantics
odin
is literally never here. i feel like ive said enough and done enough to give information about myself for today, so this is the vote for whom i think it is best for town to vote off day 1
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Post by skrouse on Apr 15, 2020 17:13:50 GMT
I agree, saying what the maf could do to win and also what they could do to be sus is not contradictory. Am I missing something soup TimPig ? Point 1: People who stay quiet are suspect Point 2: People who are too loud are suspect "All mafia needs to do is stay quiet and hope the RNG doesn't fall on them"
I didn't read this as
"People who stay quiet are suspect"
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Post by soup on Apr 15, 2020 17:23:34 GMT
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