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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 22:51:50 GMT
I don't see everyone following your plan after you explicitly lied. And if you're going "no execute" until the cop is hit, at what point is the cop revealing info? He has no idea when he's going to get hit. Everyone left in the game would post their "Investigations". The cop posts their real investigations. Everyone else posts fake ones (but you should try to make them look as real as you can). Once the cop dies, you can go back and read their investigations. Pretty much disregard everyone else's. This limits the potential loss of data via the cop dying before sharing their investigation. It also keeps the door open for the cop to survive the nights ahead. The strategy is advisable in a scenario where the protection roles are dead but you still have a hidden cop. I guess maybe this is another classic case of "vet maf player" but I'm trying to see a situation where everyone is on the same page making up fake investigations but I just don't see it working. |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 22:52:27 GMT
Tim, me declaring you mafia was a lot more to do with process of elimination than actually interpreting your play as dirty. I had town reads on everyone else except you/Soup.
I just hadn't seen anything from you on days 1/2 that made me think town.
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 22:55:25 GMT
Nobody is topping the track record below. Gambit went literally as bad as possible. But the reads were on point. On Day 2:"Delap and Soup is my present read. Soup could be a civ special though. But he's not vanilla town imo." Cleared 3 Civs even though they barely posted at all: "Canes reads really clean from day 1. Bankz reads clean from day 1. Matt reads clean from day 1." Then Day 3 before I died:
"Might as well get my final reads in here: Strong town reads: Bankz, Canes, Matt I think he's town but he could be faking: JHB Neutral: Tim, Soup" You didn't actually call anyone out as being mafia before you died. You put JHB essentially in the same category as me and Soup. You highlight at the beginning of this message how you were on Delap. You were on me as much as Soup the entire game. I could say "Player 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 all seem clean but IMO could be faking" and say I "made a great read."  I voted out Druce. "I think you [Tim] or Soup are the remaining mafia member." "Don't let Soup or Tim live to the end. If I'm wrong, so be it." How much more explicit do you want it? |
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Post by Druce on Mar 24, 2020 23:00:06 GMT
I enjoy this much more when I’m not mafia.
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:01:57 GMT
Everyone left in the game would post their "Investigations". The cop posts their real investigations. Everyone else posts fake ones (but you should try to make them look as real as you can). Once the cop dies, you can go back and read their investigations. Pretty much disregard everyone else's. This limits the potential loss of data via the cop dying before sharing their investigation. It also keeps the door open for the cop to survive the nights ahead. The strategy is advisable in a scenario where the protection roles are dead but you still have a hidden cop. I guess maybe this is another classic case of "vet maf player" but I'm trying to see a situation where everyone is on the same page making up fake investigations but I just don't see it working. You make up fake investigations and then proceed with the day's discussions as if it had never happened. It's just a fail-safe in case the cop is sniped. |
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Post by matt on Mar 24, 2020 23:02:02 GMT
"I think you [Tim] or Soup are the remaining mafia member." "Don't let Soup or Tim live to the end. If I'm wrong, so be it." How much more explicit do you want it? only 1 person voted for the mafia on every single vote. and said each were acting suspicious before each vote in some capacity. also just wanted to say thank you to those that answered my Qs in the thread, helped me understand a bit more about how y'all have played. |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:02:35 GMT
I enjoy this much more when I’m not mafia. Vanilla town is the most fun role. Being mafia is stressful because it's actively difficult to act like you normally would as town. |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:04:54 GMT
"I think you [Tim] or Soup are the remaining mafia member." "Don't let Soup or Tim live to the end. If I'm wrong, so be it." How much more explicit do you want it? only 1 person voted for the mafia on every single vote. and said each were acting suspicious before each vote in some capacity. also just wanted to say thank you to those that answered my Qs in the thread, helped me understand a bit more about how y'all have played. I thought you played very well. You were obviously town and your votes were on point in sniffing out mafia. |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Mar 24, 2020 23:05:22 GMT
If Delap/cop wasn't killed, we would have done something very interesting on the next day. I guess it's up in the air at what point Delap would've revealed himself. I don't see him doing it Day 3 because everyone would've been on you anyway for your fake investigation. I investigated Ank that night, so I knew Ank and Tim were clean. I wasn’t gonna say anything for as long as possible on 3. |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 23:07:03 GMT
So you investigated Ank night 3, me on either night one or two - who was the last person you investigated?
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:07:54 GMT
I guess it's up in the air at what point Delap would've revealed himself. I don't see him doing it Day 3 because everyone would've been on you anyway for your fake investigation. I investigated Ank that night, so I knew Ank and Tim were clean. I wasn’t gonna say anything for as long as possible on 3. Ok that's also pretty bad lol. Obviously this is the odd case where I was town, but in general, investigating the guy faking cop is a waste of an investigation. Agreed you don't snap reveal on Day 3 that you're the actual cop. But that investigation should have been somebody else. The quiets that aren't likely mafia targets are always good investigations. |
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Mar 24, 2020 23:08:19 GMT
I died night 2. You guys were my only investigations.
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:08:20 GMT
So you investigated Ank night 3, me on either night one or two - who was the last person you investigated? He only got 2 investigations You night 1 Me night 2 |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 23:09:08 GMT
Oh right.
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Post by 👨🏼⚕️delapandemic🚑 on Mar 24, 2020 23:09:33 GMT
I investigated Ank that night, so I knew Ank and Tim were clean. I wasn’t gonna say anything for as long as possible on 3. Ok that's also pretty bad lol. Obviously this is the odd case where I was town, but in general, investigating the guy faking cop is a waste of an investigation. Agreed you don't snap reveal on Day 3 that you're the actual cop. But that investigation should have been somebody else. The quiets that aren't likely mafia targets are always good investigations. Not at all. If you were mafia it was over, if it you were Town it could be ok because I’d know 3 civs |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:11:26 GMT
Ok that's also pretty bad lol. Obviously this is the odd case where I was town, but in general, investigating the guy faking cop is a waste of an investigation. Agreed you don't snap reveal on Day 3 that you're the actual cop. But that investigation should have been somebody else. The quiets that aren't likely mafia targets are always good investigations. Not at all. If you were mafia it was over, if it you were Town it could be ok because I’d know 3 civs I guess that there was 1 mafia left makes it acceptable. But as a general rule, don't investigate the player faking cop. Need to reveal the unknown players. The cop-faker has put his cards on the table. Not much unknown going on there. |
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:15:23 GMT
It's also hilarious that we won in 4 days after the cop was killed in a MaGruber scenario.
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Post by eric on Mar 24, 2020 23:19:16 GMT
Not at all. If you were mafia it was over, if it you were Town it could be ok because I’d know 3 civs I guess that there was 1 mafia left makes it acceptable. But as a general rule, don't investigate the player faking cop. Need to reveal the unknown players. The cop-faker has put his cards on the table. Not much unknown going on there. how so? mafia can claim to be cop too |
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Post by skrouse on Mar 24, 2020 23:19:20 GMT
I don’t even know what to say. There was no plan on day 1 between me and Bk, I kept flipping my vote to force a tie, he kept flipping his vote to...no idea. We suspected Delap or Jhb would be protected night one so we thought Ank to be a safe hit which I still think was the right move no matter how lucky Skrouse got.
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Post by skrouse on Mar 24, 2020 23:23:43 GMT
Also, my wife would like to play our next game if you fellas don't mind
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Post by Druce on Mar 24, 2020 23:24:41 GMT
I don’t even know what to say. There was no plan on day 1 between me and Bk, I kept flipping my vote to force a tie, he kept flipping his vote to...no idea. We suspected Delap or Jhb would be protected night one so we thought Ank to be a safe hit which I still think was the right move no matter how lucky Skrouse got.
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Post by 👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼 on Mar 24, 2020 23:27:36 GMT
I guess that there was 1 mafia left makes it acceptable. But as a general rule, don't investigate the player faking cop. Need to reveal the unknown players. The cop-faker has put his cards on the table. Not much unknown going on there. how so? mafia can claim to be cop too Yes but their claiming very much reveals them to the cop. Cop should be trying to eliminate uncertainty. A player who has claimed cop is not uncertain. They're like 85% mafia. There's very little uncertainty left to be removed (for the cop, who the town believes is another matter) Compare that to an inactive player who is basically a complete unknown. There's a lot of uncertainty there. |
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Post by skrouse on Mar 24, 2020 23:28:34 GMT
Lucky? Please, it was a great call by me. I thought Ank played under the radar and could possibly have been the cop, so I protected him. Delap was my 2nd choice, I thought Tim and JHB were drawing too much attention from possible maf members and I figured they were too risky for maf to target. Outside of that I didn't consider anyone but myself, but I didn't think I was viewed as a threat.
I also had Soup as my #1 maf suspect, which is in the dead civ thread. I had a good read on the game, what can I say. Also, my wife has now changed her mind because she is worried she won't have enough time at work to play |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 24, 2020 23:28:52 GMT
Also, my wife would like to play our next game if you fellas don't mind  |
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Post by matt on Mar 24, 2020 23:33:11 GMT
can i donate my 5k winnings to someone eric? |
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Post by Druce on Mar 24, 2020 23:36:44 GMT
Soup was definitely playing a very similar game to how he played last game, wasn’t offering really any original thought or accusations in his posts. I wish I had had time last night to defend myself after Jhb’s post but had just gotten done with bath time with the little ones.
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Post by eric on Mar 24, 2020 23:54:52 GMT
can i donate my 5k winnings to someone eric? yes |
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Post by cf3234 on Mar 25, 2020 0:51:17 GMT
Soup was definitely playing a very similar game to how he played last game, wasn’t offering really any original thought or accusations in his posts. I wish I had had time last night to defend myself after Jhb’s post but had just gotten done with bath time with the little ones. this is why I zeroed in on him. Was he also mafia last game? |
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Post by TimPig on Mar 25, 2020 17:25:23 GMT
Soup was definitely playing a very similar game to how he played last game, wasn’t offering really any original thought or accusations in his posts. I wish I had had time last night to defend myself after Jhb’s post but had just gotten done with bath time with the little ones. this is why I zeroed in on him. Was he also mafia last game?  |
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Post by cf3234 on Mar 25, 2020 18:29:37 GMT
this is why I zeroed in on him. Was he also mafia last game? makes sense. soup who is always good at doing deep dives had nothing but day 1 accusations to throw at people and nothing to really hang his at on as an attempt to help the town. |
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