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Post by eric on Aug 6, 2019 20:34:16 GMT
We kicked this around in shout a little.
Wheel determines the first round.
It doesn't necessarily have to determine the second round.
One option we could use (which would also be a trial for a potential future rookie dispersion scheme) is rookie FA.
Here's where we ended up:
-draft ends after first round
-all remaining members of draft class become FA
-we run an FA period in the software with bids on ONLY those players
-we also limit bids somewhat (three year max length, no MLE)
-and teams only get to send one set of bids (five days are processed with one set of bids)
-at the end of this period, contracts are processed and we go back to the usual FA
-any member of the draft class who makes it through rookie FA would be a free for all just like before
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Another option mechanically for rookie FA would be:
-a team bids on a player by posting a thread with a contract offer (first come first serve)
-open bidding continues until one bid is left standing for X hours
-teams are limited to one signing per season per second round draft pick they own
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I like the first version more because I don't like indefinite timetables, we'd need one way to determine highest contract that will inevitably make someone unhappy, and without software controls I guarantee someone will break cap rules with a bid that won't get noticed until I try to process it.
I'm definitely not going to do anything but wheel second round for a few seasons as we get used to it, and I'm almost certainly not going to do any lotto for the second round. People have been talking about rookie FA for awhile and this does sound like it could be fun, let me know what you all think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 20:42:10 GMT
#rookiefa
#option1
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Post by jhb on Aug 6, 2019 20:42:45 GMT
Option 1
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Post by jhb on Aug 6, 2019 20:43:02 GMT
If you vote option 2 you support terrorism
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Post by wee2dee on Aug 6, 2019 20:44:32 GMT
option 1
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Post by skrouse on Aug 6, 2019 20:44:55 GMT
I really, really like option B.
You can solve the indefinite timetable problem by adding bid parameters. Mins, maxes, min increases and max # of offers in total or per team
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Post by TimPig on Aug 6, 2019 20:50:27 GMT
-we also limit bids somewhat (three year max length, no MLE) Why wouldn't we be able to offer the MLE if we're able to offer the LLE? If someone wants to use that on a second-rounder, why can't they? |
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Post by skrouse on Aug 6, 2019 20:53:04 GMT
If you vote option 2 you support terrorism I disagree |
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Post by skrouse on Aug 6, 2019 20:53:43 GMT
-we also limit bids somewhat (three year max length, no MLE) Why wouldn't we be able to offer the MLE if we're able to offer the LLE? If someone wants to use that on a second-rounder, why can't they? I would suspect LLEs are also out. |
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Post by eric on Aug 6, 2019 21:11:15 GMT
to clarify this is not intended to be a vote on only those two options, but a general discussion on those and other potential options for second round rookie dispersal, whether rookie FA or otherwise the specifics of each proposal are just what bill jhb and i happened to come up with in shout, if people want to fine tune them that's fine too...n  the only one who supports terrorism and otherwise regularly commits treason is Oliver North You can solve the indefinite timetable problem by adding bid parameters. Mins, maxes, min increases and max # of offers in total or per team yeah there are ways for sure but i think they all have issues. for this one, i really don't want to have to open every thread and count how many offers a team makes, and somebody has to do that. we could also do a hard deadline but that encourages last minute sniping if known and is discouraging in general if i just declare it arbitrarily. auctioning is an idea i think works fine in person but is unworkable on forum, but i could be surprised, we'll see how the brainstorm goes |
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Post by jhb on Aug 6, 2019 21:25:56 GMT
If you vote option 2 you support terrorism I disagree BK came up with most of that wow I bet you feel dumb now |
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Post by jhb on Aug 6, 2019 21:26:46 GMT
-we also limit bids somewhat (three year max length, no MLE) Why wouldn't we be able to offer the MLE if we're able to offer the LLE? If someone wants to use that on a second-rounder, why can't they? Because I came up with the rules and I said so |
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Post by TimPig on Aug 6, 2019 21:31:26 GMT
Wow I guess it's true what they say huh The inmates are runnign the asylum eric |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 22:14:42 GMT
I would prefer mle usage and not being limited by number of picks owned
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Post by skrouse on Aug 6, 2019 23:37:57 GMT
BK came up with most of that wow I bet you feel dumb now This is similar to a silent auction, not some crazy idea. The big diff is we will know who the bidders are. Current FA is basically a blind auction with a computer program choosing the winner. I like the idea of changing it up. It would be cool if we could hide the bidder's name from the bids. |
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Post by eric on Aug 7, 2019 2:27:09 GMT
BK came up with most of that wow I bet you feel dumb now This is similar to a silent auction, not some crazy idea. The big diff is we will know who the bidders are. Current FA is basically a blind auction with a computer program choosing the winner. I like the idea of changing it up. It would be cool if we could hide the bidder's name from the bids. hidden auction would require me to post every bid though, that seems even more unworkable load management wise. is there an app for that? i agree that bill is not a terrorist although william and oliver are both classic english (i.e. french) names... and the king is the north star...  bill have you or have you not ever committed treason at the behest of the Reagan and/or la Pierre? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 4:33:51 GMT
BK came up with most of that wow I bet you feel dumb now This is similar to a silent auction, not some crazy idea. The big diff is we will know who the bidders are. Current FA is basically a blind auction with a computer program choosing the winner. I like the idea of changing it up. It would be cool if we could hide the bidder's name from the bids.
We do this for restricted free agency in my league.
people can submit their best bid for a player, the best bid then wins (not FBB rng bullshit)
it works well
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Rookie FA
Aug 7, 2019 12:05:13 GMT
via mobile
Post by jhb on Aug 7, 2019 12:05:13 GMT
So much evidence stacking up in favor of option 1 my word
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Post by Majic on Aug 7, 2019 14:36:27 GMT
my vote would be no rookie FA in general.
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Post by skrouse on Aug 7, 2019 16:33:57 GMT
my vote would be no rookie FA in general. Leaning this way as well, though the thought is intriguing |
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