2004 Rookie Draft (COMPLETE) (1,284 views)

[TimPig]

Round One

1. San Antonio Spurs - Courtney Alexander CG 6'5'' 205 23 C+ B- A- B- D B
2. Miami Heat (from Kings) - DerMarr Johnson SG 6'9'' 200 20 B- B C- C+ C B
3. Chicago Bulls (from Hornets) - Desmond Mason SF 6'7'' 225 23 B C+ C- B C+ B
4. Golden State Warriors - Darius Miles SF 6'9'' 210 19 B+ C C C+ C A
5. Washington Bullets - Mike Miller SG 6'8 218 20 B- B- C C+ C A
6. Washington Wizards - Hedo Turkoglu PF 6'10'' 220 21 B- B C C B- C
7. Denver Nuggets - Livio Jean-Charles PF 6'9'' 230 18 B+ C D C C+ B
8. Denver Nuggets (from Grizzlies) - Kenyon Martin PF 6'9'' 235 22 B+ D+ D+ B- C+ C
9. Seattle SuperSonics - Stromile Swift C 6'9'' 225 20 B C- D+ C+ C+ A
10. Los Angeles Lakers - Jamal Crawford PG 6'5'' 200 20 C B+ B C C- B
11. Golden State Warriors (from Celtics) - Quentin Richardson SG 6'6'' 225 20 C B- C- C C A
12. Cleveland Cavaliers - DeeAndre Hulett C 7'8'' 400 25 B- C+ D+ B- C+ B
13. Toronto Raptors - Jason Hart PG 6'3'' 185 22 B- C+ B- C C A
14. Chicago Bulls - Marcus Fizer PF 6'9'' 260 22 B D+ C C B- B
15. Miami Heat - Chris Mihm C 7'0'' 265 21 C+ C- D C+ B C
16. Portland Trailblazers - Etan Thomas C 6'9'' 260 22 B- C- D C B- A
17. Atlanta Hawks - Donnell Harvey PF 6'8'' 220 20 C+ C- C+ B- C+ A
18. Denver Nuggets (from Suns) - Mateen Cleaves PG 6'2'' 205 23 C C+ A- C D C
19. San Antonio Spurs (from Mavericks) - Jake Tsakalidis C 7'2'' 285 21 B C- C- C C+ D
20. Washington Wizards (from Timberwolves) - Nemanja Nedovic PG 6'3'' 190 19 C+ C+ B- C D B
21. Chicago Bulls (from Bucks) - Eduardo Najera PF 6'8'' 240 24 B- C- D+ C B+ B
22. Indiana Pacers - Morris Peterson SF 6'7'' 220 23 C+ B- C C C C
23. San Antonio Spurs (from Magic) - Michael Redd SG 6'6'' 220 21 C B C C- C C
24. Detroit Pistons - Dan Langhi SF 6'11'' 230 23 C C+ C- B C+ B
25. Chicago Bulls (from Globetrotters) - A.J. Guyton PG 6'1'' 180 22 B C C+ C C- B
26. Los Angeles Lakers (from Rockets) - Eddie House SG 6'1'' 180 22 C A- D+ C C B
27. Washington Wizards (from Knicks) - Jamaal Magloire C 6'11'' 260 22 C+ C- D+ C C+ C
28. Vancouver Grizzlies (from Clippers) - Khalid El-Amin PG 5'10'' 350 21 B- C C+ D+ C+ C
29. San Antonio Spurs (from Jazz) - Mamadou N'Diaye C 7'0'' 255 25 C+ C+ C C- C+ C

Round Two

1. Cleveland Cavaliers - Dan McClintock C 7'0'' 270 23 C+ C- D+ B- C B
2. Golden State Warriors - Joel Przybilla C 7'0'' 255 21 C C C C+ C D
3. Dallas Mavericks (from SuperSonics) - Josip Sesar SG 6'3'' 200 18 C+ C B+ C C+ B
4. Denver Nuggets - Chris Porter SF 6'7'' 220 22 B- C D+ C+ C+ C
5. San Antonio Spurs - Chris Carrawell SG 6'6'' 215 23 C+ C C- C C+ C
6. Washington Bullets - Erick Barkley PG 6'1" 175 22 C C+ C+ C C- B
7. Washington Wizards - Primoz Brezek C 7'2'' 250 21 C+ C- D+ C C+ D
8. Charlotte Hornets - Jabari Smith PF 6'11'' 250 23 B- C C C C+ D
9. Boston Celtics - Brian Cardinal PF 6'8'' 245 23 B- C- C C C+ B
10. Houston Rockets (from Lakers) - Marko Jaric PG 6'7'' 195 22 C C A- C C- C
11. Toronto Raptors - Mark Karcher SF 6'7'' 230 22 C+ C B- C C B
12. Sacramento Kings - Soumaila Samake C 7'0'' 230 22 C D B- C+ C C
13. Miami Heat - Scoonie Penn PG 5'11'' 215 22 C+ C D C- D+ C
14. Chicago Bulls - DeShawn Stevenson SG 6'5'' 210 19 C+ C C- C+ C- C
15. Vancouver Grizzlies - SKIP
16. Atlanta Hawks - Lavor Postell SG 6'5'' 215 22 C C C C+ C- A
17. Portland Trailblazers - Igor Rakocevic PG 6'3'' 185 22 C+ C B C- C C
18. Phoenix Suns - Jaquay Wells SF 6'9'' 195 21 C+ B- C C- C C
19. Miami Heat (from Mavericks) - Dalibor Bagaric C 7'1'' 255 21 C+ C- C- C C C
20. Indiana Pacers - Speedy Claxton PG 5'11'' 165 22 C- C A- C+ C+ D
21. Minnesota Timberwolves - FORFEIT
22. Milwaukee Bucks - SKIP
23. Indiana Pacers (from Magic) - SKIP
24. Detroit Pistons - Hanno Mottola C 6'11'' 250 24 C+ C C- C C+ B
25. Portland Trailblazers (from Globetrotters) - Olumide Oyedeji C 6'10'' 240 19 C C C- C C- C
26. Houston Rockets - Mark Madsen PF 6'9'' 240 24 C C+ D+ C C B
27. New York Knicks - Mike Smith SF 6'8'' 195 24 C C C+ C D+ A
28. Los Angeles Clippers - Jason Collier C 7'0'' 260 23 C+ D+ C- C C+ D
29. Utah Jazz - Pete Mickeal PF 6'8'' 265 20 C D+ D+ C B- B

[Druce]

Compu Players That Will Be Deleted:

C:
Jonathan Martin
Enrique Russell
Mathew Panariello

PF:
Ricardo Schabinger
Gavin Davis
Deion Dickerson
Gregory Polynice
Renato Vaught
Donnell Gordon
Adam Haynes
Curtis Hardaway
Brock Ripley
Ramon Schommer

SF:
Angel Sharman
Richard Stagg
Terrell Cato
Nikolas Madarang
Albie Skinner
Ricardo Strong
Tom Wade
Chad Grant
Bryce Hyatt
Stan Falwell
Jonah Gomelsky

SG:
Dawson Eschmeyer
Ethan Rider
Christian Wootten
Benjamin Davidson
Blake Pettit
Jim Ellison
Tyler Meyer
Nickolas Kim
Luis Wachter
Jon Long

PG:
Lloyd Santiago
Johnny McCloud
Nathan Wootten
Gregory Barlow
Ian Saperstein
Alex Schmidt
Ken Nielsen
Erik Blood

[TimPig]

PROSPECTS
*Players who have been picked will be highlighted red
**I'll text those who are up as much as often as I'm able, but please help out if you can

Draft Combine
Dr. Delap's Draft Diagnosis

Etan Thomas
PF/C
6'9
260
22
Syracuse

B- C- D C B- A

Strengths:
- Absolutely dominated the inside in college defensively, blocks a ton of shots
- Attacks the glass and uses his size to establish position, tough to move/get around for boards
- Can finish when called upon. Won't be a #1 option on offense but will get his

Weaknesses:
- A true post player in the sense that you don't want him handling or distributing the ball for any significant time
- Jump shot needs a lot of work, more consistency from the free throw line could see him blossom

Livio Jean-Charles
F
6'9"
230
18
France

B+ C D C C+ B

Strengths:
- Fast and tireless, constantly moving on offense and defense
- Incredible leaper
- Nose for the ball, especially on the offensive glass

Weaknesses:
- Very unrefined game, due to his age. Jumpshot needs re-tooling.
- Won't attempt outside shots
- Frenetic on defense, sometimes loses his man because he tries to help too hard for teammates

Nemanja Nedovic
CG
6'3"
190
19
Serbia

C+ C+ B- C D B

Strengths:
- Knock-down shooter from the FT line
- Great ball handler, even against traps and presses
- Finds open teammates regularly, controls the tempo of the offense

Weaknesses:
- Physically fairly weak, doesn't have the frame to add strength
- Avoids crashing for boards on both ends
- Not the fastest player, especially laterally

Hedo Turkoglu
F
6'10
220
21
Turkey

B- B C C B- C

Strengths:
- Has a quick release and good height on his jumper, making him difficult to defend on the perimeter
- Can hit from all over the flood
- Despite being tall, he is deceptively quick

Weaknesses:
- Needs to work on toughness inside to become a more well rounded scorer
- Positioning when it comes to boards is lacking
- Not a rim protector inside

Kenyon Martin
PF/C
6'9
235
22
Cincinnati

B+ D+ D+ B- C+ C

Strengths:
- Has a bulldog like game inside, scrappy and tough. Will muscle his opponents down low.
- Uses his jumping ability and length to effect shots in the lane.
- Natural vocal leader

Weaknesses:
- Brick layer from outside of 5 feet
- Often puts his head down and tries to get to the basket, ignoring potential open teammates
- Despite always being around the paint, struggles to get positioning for offensive rebounds
- Right leg bones

Mike Miller
SG/SF
6'8
218
20
Florida

B- B- C C+ C A

Strengths:
- Uses his size well to take smaller defenders into the post, finishes well at the rim
- Shows good range and is a knock down jump shooter
- Has good length and defends the perimeter well

Weaknesses:
- Needs to add some muscle to his frame
- Won't be mistaken for the quickest guy on the floor
- Tends to turn it over more than he should

Chris Mihm
C
7'
265
21
Texas

C+ C- D C+ B C

Strengths:
- Rim protector deluxe
- Crafty post moves for a white guy, not a big white stiff
- Attacks the glass on both ends of the floor, uses his body well

Weaknesses:
- Black hole on offense, don't bother looking for a kick out
- Turns it over due to unwillingness to pass out of double teams
- Won't get many steals at all

Stromile Swift
PF/C
6'9
225
20
LSU

B C- D+ C+ C+ A

Strengths:
- Great athlete who will alter shots at the rim with his length. No freebies while he's on the floor.
- Has very good feet inside and will be able to beat slower defenders.
- Very quick for his size and will catch defenders off guard

Weaknesses:
- Needs to improve his hands down low. Keeps the ball too low allowing smaller defenders to steal it from him.
- His shooting stroke needs work outside of the paint. Not a horrible stroke, but he's never put in the time to refine it.
- Tends to leave his man to seek highlight blocks, opening passing lanes for easy finishes around the bucket. Must learn to defend the post better outside of blocks.

Mateen Cleaves
PG
6'2
205
23
Michigan State

C C+ A- C D C

Strengths:
- Strong floor general who finds the open man more often than not
- Can knock down open looks from mid range
- Stronger than most point guards

Weaknesses:
- Has trouble playing through contact and finishing down low
- Lacks range to be a real outside threat
- Lazy and indifferent when it comes to rebounding

Desmond Mason
SG/SF
6'7
225
23
Oklahoma State

B C+ C- B C+ B

Strengths:
- Silky jump shot, a good catch and shoot player
- Gets to the basket and uses his athleticism to finish around the hoop
- Can score from just about anywhere on the floor, very good range

Weaknesses:
- Won't find him assisting many teammates
- Will need to get stronger in the pro game
- Despite being a larger wing, he struggles to guard the post

Michael Redd
SG
6'6
220
21
Ohio St

C B C C- C C

Strengths:
- Very solid jump shooter with a smooth lefty stroke.
- Range extends beyond 3 point line where he hits consistently
- Pressures opponents into turnovers, has good quick hands

Weaknesses:
- Wont block many shots at all
- Will have trouble both driving against and defending other 2 guards do to his lack of quick feet
- Turns the ball over more than you'd like

DerMarr Johnson
SG/SF
6'9
200
20
Cincinnati

B- B C- C+ C B

Strengths:
- Knock down shooter from anywhere on the floor. Gets good lift on his shots. Very hard to defend given size/lift
- Plays passing lanes well and can also alter shots on the perimeter
- Takes advantage of his wingspan to make plays on both offense and defense

Weaknesses:
- Doesn't move the ball well, looks for his own shot instead of open teammates
- Needs to attack the glass more given his height advantage over most wings
- Will need to add strength to guard larger players

Jamal Crawford
CG
6'5
200
20
Michigan

C B+ B C C- B

Strengths:
- Can hit from anywhere on the floor, coming off screens, spot up, runners, kick outs. You name it he can knock it down
- Has good court vision and finds open passes to his teammates.

Weaknesses:
- Often leaks out in transition and neglects the glass.
- Will turn it over a fair amount if he's the primary ball handler
- Needs some time in the NBA weight room
- Limited college sample size

Courtney Alexander
CG
6'5
205
23
Fresno St

C+ B- A- B- D B

Strengths:
- Pure scorer, puts the biscuit in the basket. Can create his own shot and finish at the rim or catch and shoot
- Strong court vision and ability to find open teammates
- Good worth ethic on defense causes ball pressure and turnovers

Weaknesses:
- While he contests on the outside, won't block many shots at all
- Largely ignores rebounding unless the ball happens to bounce to him
- Will struggle guarding larger more physical guards, needs to get stronger

Darius Miles
SF
6'9
210
19
East St. Louis High School

B+ C C C+ C A

Strengths:
- Very good shot blocker for a primary wing player. Has a large wingspan and good anticipation
- Length also helps him play passing lanes well and create turnovers on defense
- Can jump out of the gym, very good athlete

Weaknesses:
- As you can expect from a high school, he needs to hit the weights. Will get bullied by grown men down low
- He is lacking tenacity on the glass, plays lazy at times
- A bit sloppy with the ball which could be a result of immaturity

Joel Przybilla
C
7'1
255
21
Minnesota

C C C C+ C D

Strengths:
- Solid on the block, uses his size well. Has pro ready strength and back to the basket game.
- Positions himself well on defense and is a good help side defender who can blocks shots and clog the lane

Weaknesses:
- Needs to work on shooting form away from the rim and at the line to maximize efficiency
- Tends to keep the ball low and is susceptible to turnovers.
- Won't make many plays on the ball creating turnovers himself

Marcus Fizer
F
6'9
260
22
Iowa St

B D+ C C B- B

Strengths:
- Strong as a bull, will be tough to move off the block
- Has a nice array of post moves he uses to get his shot
- Hits the offensive glass hard, does well to get position with his size

Weaknesses:
- Will get beat by quicker players due to his size
- Struggles defending in space out on the wing
- Forces shots in double teams instead of finding an open teammate

Jason Collier
C
7'0"
260
23
Georgia Tech
Strength: Strength

C+ D+ C- C C+ D

Quentin Richardson
SG
6'6"
225
20
Depaul
Strength: 3pt shot

C B- C- C C A

Jamaal Magloire
C
6'11"
260
22
Kentucky
Strength: Inside

C+ C- D+ C C+ C

Speedy Claxton
PG
5'11"
165
22
Hofstra
Strength: Passing

C- C A- C+ C+ D

Morris Peterson
SF
6'7"
220
23
Michigan State
Strength: Jump Shot

C+ B- C C C C

Donnell Harvey
F
6'8"
220
20
Florida
Strength: Potential

C+ C- C+ B- C+ A

DeShawn Stevenson
SG
6'5"
210
19
Washington Union H.S.
Strength: Perimeter Defense

C+ C C- C+ C- C

Dalibor Bagaric
C
7'1"
255
20
Germany
Strength: Strength

C+ C- C- C C C

Jake Tsakalidis
C
7'2"
285
21
Georgia (Nation)
Strength: Inside

B C- C- C C+ D

Mamadou N'Diaye
C
7'0"
255
25
Auburn
Strength: Shot Blocking

C+ C+ C C- C+ C

Primoz Brezek
C
7'2"
250
21
Slovenia
Strength: Defensive Rebounding

C+ C- D+ C C+ D

Erick Barkley
PG
6'1"
175
22
St. John's
Strength: Quickness

C C+ C+ C C- B

Mark Madsen
PF
6'9"
240
24
Stanford
Strength: Offensive Rebounding, Weakness: Groove

C C+ D+ C C B

Marko Jaric
CG
6'7"
195
22
Serbia
Strength: Handling

C C A- C C- C

Dan Langhi
SF
6'11"
220
23
Vanderbilt
Strength: 3pt Shot

C C+ C- B C+ B

AJ Guyton
PG
6'1"
180
22
Indiana
Strength: 3pt Shot

B C C+ C C- B

Jake Voskuhl
C
6'11"
245
23
UConn
Strength: Strength

C D+ D+ C B- B

Khalid El-Amin
PG
5'10"
350
21
UConn
Strength: Jumpshot

B- C C+ D+ C+ C

Mike Smith
SF
6'8"
195
24
ULM
Strength: Perimeter Defense

C C C+ C D+ A

Soumaila Samake
C
7'0"
230
22
Mali
Strength: Shot Blocking

C D B- C+ C C

Eddie House
CG
6'1"
180
22
Arizona State
Strength: Jumpshot

C A- D+ C C B

Eduardo Najera
F
6'8"
240
24
Oklahoma
Strength: Defensive Rebounding

B- C- D+ C B+ B

Lavor Postell
SG
6'5"
215
22
St. Johns
Strength: Quickness

C C C C+ C- A

Hanno Mottola
C/PF
6'11"
250
24
Utah
Strength: 3pt Shot

C+ C C- C C+ B

Chris Carrawell
SG
6'6"
215
23
Duke
Strength: Perimeter Defense

C+ C C- C C+ C

Olumide Oyedeji
C
6'10"
240
19
Nigeria
Strength: Strength

C C C- C C- C

Brian Cardinal
F
6'8"
245
23
Purdue
Strength: Defensive Rebounding

B- C- C C C+ B

Jabari Smith
C/PF
6'11"
250
23
LSU
Strength: Strength

B- C C C C+ D

DeeAndre Hulett
C
7'8"
400
25
College of the Sequoias
Strength: Inside

B- C+ D+ B- C+ B

Josip Sesar
CG
6'3"
200
18
Italy
Strength: Passing

C+ C B+ C C+ B

Mark Karcher
SF
6'7"
230
22
Temple
Strength: Defensive Rebounding

C+ C B- C C B

Jason Hart
PG
6'3"
185
22
Syracuse
Strength: 3pt Shot

B- C+ B- C C A

Kaniel Dickens
F
6'8"
215
22
Idaho
Strength: Inside

C+ C C+ C C- D

Igor Rakocevic
PG
6'3"
185
22
Serbia
Strength: Inside

C+ C B C- C C

Ernest Brown
C
7'0"
245
21
Indian Hills C.C.
Strength: Quickness

C+ C C D C C

Dan McClintock
C
7'0"
270
23
Northern Arizona
Strength: Shot Blocking

C+ C- D+ B- C B

Cory Hightower
SG
6'6"
215
21
Indian Hills C.C.
Strength: Jumpshot

C C D+ C C C

Chris Porter
SF
6'7"
220
22
Auburn
Strength: Defensive Rebounding

B- C D+ C+ C+ C

Jaquay Wells
F
6'9"
195
21
Colorado
Strength: 3pt Shot

C+ B- C C- C C

Scoonie Penn
PG
5'11"
215
22
Ohio State
Strength: Handling

C+ C D C- D+ C

Pete Mickeal
F
6'8"
265
20
Cincinnati
Strength: Potential

C D+ D+ C B- B

[eric]

spurs take

Courtney Alexander PG 6'5'' 205 23 C+ B- A- B- D B

[TimPig]

Heat draft via text:

DerMarr Johnson SG 6'9'' 200 20 B- B C- C+ C B

[TimPig]

The Chicago Bulls select:

Desmond Mason SF 6'7'' 225 23 B C+ C- B C+ B

Taco: Better than a Nacho

[Taco: Better than a Nacho]

Darius Miles
SF
6'9
210
19
East St. Louis High School

B+ C C C+ C A

[kn88]

Mike Miller SG/SF 6'8 218 20 B- B- C C+ C A

[TimPig]

Wizards pick via text:

Hedo Turkoglu PF 6'10'' 220 21 B- B C C B- C

Mike

[Mike]

Livio Jean-Charles

B+ C D C C+ B

Kenyon Martin

B+ D+ D+ B- C+ C

[duc15]

Stromile Swift C 6'9'' 225 20 B C- D+ C+ C+ A

[Norman Dale]

Lakers take Jamal Crawford

[TimPig]

Warriors take Quentin Richardson via text

Druce eric can you auto the Cavs?

[eric]

DeeAndre Hulett C 7'8'' 400 25 B- C+ D+ B- C+ B

cavs take

[breauxcaine]

Raptors take Jason Hart

[TimPig]

The Chicago Bulls select:

Marcus Fizer PF 6'9'' 260 22 B D+ C C B- B

yawn

[👼Saint Panktrick's Day👼]

Yawn takes Chris Mihm via text

[Majic]

Etan Thomas C 6'9'' 260 22 B- C- D C B- A


jhb

[jhb]

Donnell Harvey

[Mike]

Mateen Cleaves

[eric]

spurs take

Jake Tsakalidis C 7'2'' 285 21 B C- C- C C+ D

[h7t]

Wizards select
Nemanja Nedovic CG 6'3" 190 19 Serbia C+ C+ B- C D B

[TimPig]

The Chicago Bulls select:

Eduardo Najera PF 6'8'' 240 24 B- C- D+ C B+ B

ahebrewtoo

[ahebrewtoo]

Morris Peterson SF 6'7'' 220 23 C+ B- C C C C

[eric]

spurs take

Michael Redd SG 6'6'' 220 21 C B C C- C C

[dump]

The Detroit Pistons take, the younger brother of New York Knicks legendary glue guy Broderick Langhi....

Dan Langhi
SF
6'11"
220
23
Vanderbilt
Strength: 3pt Shot

C C+ C- B C+ B

[TimPig]

The Chicago Bulls select:

A.J. Guyton PG 6'1'' 180 22 B C C+ C C- B

Norman Dale

[Norman Dale]

Lakers take Eddie House

[TimPig]

Wizards take via list:

Jamaal Magloire C 6'11'' 260 22 C+ C- D+ C C+ C

Grizzlies take via list:

Khalid El-Amin PG 5'10'' 350 21 B- C C+ D+ C+ C

eric up for the Spurs and Cavs

[eric]

spurs take
Mamadou N'Diaye C 7'0'' 255 25 C+ C+ C C- C+ C

cavs take
Dan McClintock C 7'0'' 270 23 C+ C- D+ B- C B